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Thursday, January
1st, 2009
High -5°C Low -27°C
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We spent the morning
with the Orams, then went grocery shopping. I bought a terabyte USB disk
on the way home, figuring I'm going to need some backup space. Ellen's
computer has gremlins, and so do the others.
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Before we left, Mckenzie
tried to get me interested in the Wii. Frankly, the thing leaves me cold.
If I am going to have an "Outdoor Adventure", I am going to go outdoors, not
jump around on a mat in the house in front of a flat screen, and if I am going
to snowboard, I expect to see snow and some steeps, and feel the bite of the air
going by. If I am going to play guitar, I am going to expect to have to
finger some chords and do some picking. I must be old school.
More on drone
removal on BEE-L today. Apparently some study Seeley did somehow
showed that the drone removal colonies out-produced the controls. Of
course, one study, and everyone is on board. We'll see. So far,
I am not all that impressed with what I have seen from that direction, but I
also have not done my homework. I love being proven wrong, but does
one study prove anything?
Dave had a good
post about putting holes in foundation to get it drawn. There used to
be a plastic foundation with a couple of holes near the top bar, so I guess
this is not news.
Friday, January
2nd, 2009
High -18°C Low -24°C
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Looks like a cold one
today. We've invited the usual suspects for supper tonight. If the
weather turns as cold as predicted travel may not be wise. We'll see.
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first step to self-awareness must be through the body. -- George
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I spent the morning
blowing out the driveway and looking at Ellen's computer. It freezes when
sitting unattended, and Google Earth barely ran. I reinstalled GE, then
DirectX. Then Windows OneCare. Still no solution, but the machine
runs better. I may wind up reinstalling Windows XP SP3 over itself to try
to find a solution. That means slipstreaming a disk, since my copy is SP2.
I did some more SharePoint work, in the VM I got from Jon, but am stuck with an
error I cannot trace. Oh, Microsoft!.
The P-Ss, Ruth, and Flo
showed up for supper and we had a good time. Ellen had cooked a huge ham.
Ruth brought over her
laptop, which has been going dark suddenly after waking up from sleep and I
played around with it. It worked fine for me, but another one of those
Windows glitches that are common. Not having been used for a few weeks, it
needed tons of updating. Seems to me there has to be something better than
this.
I recall, in the
early days when Apple and Commodore were emerging microcomputers.
Commodore had its O/S on a read-only chip (ROM) and Apple had a disk that
had to be loaded into RAM at each start-up. The former approach made
for an instant start and an incorruptible O/S, but need for opening the
machine and replacing a chip when changes were indicated (which was almost
never). The latter allowed for customization and easy upgrading, but
that approach is vulnerable to corruption and unauthorized changing by
various means.
These days almost
all computers have O/Ss which are loaded into RAM, and which are constantly
being changed and patched by the suppliers, while at the same time being
altered subtly and invisibly by installation of user software and libraries,
and also being attacked by nefarious exploits on web sites and email
attachments.
The ROMs may have
been less flexible, but they worked as well -- or as badly -- ten years
later than they did out of the box. For business, that is a good
feature, and most users would love it, but computer are designed, built and
sold by geeks who love customization. Imagine if cars were built in a
way that expected that they would be jacked up, hopped up and customized
instead of used and driven the way they are delivered from the factory.
Drivers would start them up one day and find the steering wheel in the back
seat and the hood on the roof or be driving down the road and find that an
invisible someone was spray-painting the windshield. Ridiculous?
When you consider
how much effort is spent trying to get computers back to original state
after being customized by third-party software and usage and
vandalized or sapped by viruses, worms and exploits...
Saturday, January
3rd, 2009
High -21°C Low -27°C
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It's minus 33 this
morning. Don't know how the minimum (above) could be predicted as -27.
Hi Allen:
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snow. -- Jeff Valdez |
...I run around 1500 hives. I would
like to ask a few questions, I am making my own pollen patties
and am trying to come up with the products in order to make
them. In bulk I am trying to find a source for: Soy, citric
acid, and Torula yeast.
I don't know of any source of torula
yeast and would be interested if anyone does.
I buy brew tech from Pat Heitkam in
California, I also can get sugar in bulk here in Oregon and
canola oil. I collect my own pollen here also. However I'm still
trying to locate these three other ingredients. I might have a
tract on the citric acid.
I have never used citric acid,
although I have heard it recommended for insect diets.
I worry about the HMF that acids and sugars can produce. I
don't know how much you plan to use, but home brewing places
in towns and on the Internet offer it in bulk. A fellow
named Steve Tackaberry 559-760-3563 / 559-683-8472 handles
yeasts and soy, and some beekeepers buy from him. I
haven't talked to him for a few years. If you call
him, say, "Hi", from me. He deals in large lots, and I
think that maybe Pat deals with him, so it might be best to
get the soy through Pat, too.
I used canola oil a bit, but have no
idea if it helps either, so went to a simple yeast/soy/sugar
patty, with some pollen being optional. Medhat's
research seems to bear out their value, and beekeepers seem
to find them optimal as far as performance for price is
concerned.
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Glenn Apiaries has a good collection of bee-related
news
articles |
Any help is appreciated, Thanks This
fall I got behind on work and went in with some local beekeepers
and bought some mega bee. The bees really liked it but it's way
to expensive. It's kinda funny that I paid for the research to
find a supplement for the bees, as a US tax payer, and I have to
pay even more for the product.
Yes, it is a shame that Gordy got
mixed up with commercial firms that seem to be mainly in it
for the money. We had hoped that a firm like
Global Patties
would get the contract, since they produce and sell at very
low cost to the beekeeper.
Actually, Global did make the patties
in the US under contract for the prime contractor at first,
and do have the Canadian rights, last I heard, but in the US
there are large royalties on the product, and then the
distribution chain gets its share.
The reports I have heard was that
MegaBee -- unlike some other proprietary formulations -- is
actually pretty good, but I have not heard that it is
noticeably better than Global's standard -- and much
cheaper -- patties. Maybe it is, Dunno. Nobody
in Canada seems to want to buy the MegaBee patties and they
are made only on request now.
MegaBee was designed as a liquid diet
and most of the engineering that went into it was to keep it
suspended in liquid and to prevent spoilage. None of
that sophistication is needed in a patty, so if the
ingredients are more expensive, it is possible that there is
no benefit over cheaper products when made into patties.
Anyway I'm back to making my own
product. If you have any questions my email address is...
I hope this helps. Maybe I should
start a bee nutrition discussion list. I've meant to
do some comparative research, but it is a huge job.
Personally, I could never make patties as cheaply or as well
as Global does, and they make any formula anyone wants, so
an option is to contact them and see what they would charge
for your product, delivered. You never know. I know you can
make up pails of feed and ladle it onto the top bars, but
the Global patties are neat to handle -- you can put
them on hives and move them around if they are still there
when you need to work the hives -- and Global makes their
money by being mechanized and efficient, not by gouging the
beekeeper. Also, they buy ingredients in large volumes
and cheaply, plus they use enough to ensure the supplies are
fresh. That is very, very important!
Most beekeepers who make their own
have too much or too little of one or another ingredient and
store the left-overs. A year later, the ingredients
may not have much nutritional value left. Also, small
quantities are often bought locally and may have been in
storage for some time. Global buys factory-direct.
I would never again make my own patties if I could buy them
pre-made.
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> Brian & I have
been looking for some time for a recipe to make some real good
patties in the next few weeks. We just used brewers yeast, oil &
sugar last spring.
Howcum everyone is adding oil? I
know some lipids are needed, but which ones? Some oils are
harmful and so is too much. Besides, the soy we use has had the
oil deliberately removed!
> The big hives
cleaned it up great but the small ones, well did so so. Brian bought
a 30 quart or so mixer. And my cousin 15 miles up the road has a
soya extruder/feed mill. He has access to darn near anything that is
used in feed & what not.
Be careful what soy you use. The
recommended soy has been properly toasted under controlled
conditions to de-activate the harmful enzymes that are normal in
soy.
> If you are
unable to help please let me know who might be able to.
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"And those
who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could
not hear the music." -- Friedrich Nietzsche |
My recipes and instructions
are at
http://honeybeeworld.com/misc/pollen/default.htm
It is the same formula that
Global uses and has proven very effective. Beekeepers
report it is as effective as anything they have tried and
Medhat found it increased brood rearing as well as the other
formulas he tried, including BeePro. We found it improved
our overall success, year round when fed in spring.
Global tried leaving out the soy, since some California
beekeepers prefer to use just yeast, but they found the
texture was sloppy and besides, nobody bought them.
Everyone likes the regular ones, and the ones with some
irradiated (US grown) pollen included are the most popular.
In Medhat's'
test, one beekeeper provided patties that the bees ate well,
but which gave no results!
I really recommend that
anyone who is planning to feed should call
Global first
to see if there are stocks nearby and what the price is,
since the cost may be the same or cheaper than making the
patties at home, and you can be sure that the right
ingredients are used -- plus, you know they are fresh.
There are so many things that
can go wrong when obtaining the ingredients and mixing them
up, I prefer to leave it to the pros. Many beekeepers figure they will
save a few dollars or come up with something better, but
there is the huge risk of making a mistake, using the wrong yeast
or soy, getting old stock, or adding something that is
detrimental. Beekeepers seldom run a control and have no
idea if their home-made feeds are actually doing more harm
than good.
I have actually seen this happen over and over. In Medhat's' test, one beekeeper provided patties that the bees
ate well, but which gave no results! (This beekeeper
is no dummy. He has been a major contributor and is hugely
respected in the bee industry, but he had no clue). It turned out
that he had material left over from previous years and had
used it in the patties -- a total waste of time. The
bees did no better or worse than if nothing had been fed.
Sorry if this sounds like a
lecture. Probably it is
,
but I have spent so much time on this and seen some crazy
things fed, and of course no card-carrying honest-to-god beekeeper would
ever just
feed the stuff to a few colonies first to see how well it
works, so they never really know.
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| By the way what is honey now worth in
drums up north?
Seems the honey parkers are playing
games as always. One of the big players in Kansas knocked the price
down to $1.23 for white. But one of there contract truckers tells us
that they can not seem to get any bought for this price.
We have half a load left to sell & I
think it is sold for $1.40 drum exchange. We delivered some to Omaha
last week for $1.50.
The small packers have upped there shelf
price & are having no problems selling a quality product. We had a
grocery store in our family for almost 40 years. Grandpa & my dad
always told me that when times were tough people will still stay at
home & cook a good meal.
People in the United States are becoming
so cautious as to the county of origin for food stuffs in the past
year or so it just blows my mind.
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Maybe someone will respond with some more
prices. Last I heard, the price was $1.50 in Canada for
white. Our dollar is around $0.82, so actually that means
$1.23 US.
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I spent an hour out
blowing snow off the driveways in the afternoon. The weather has
moderated a bit. It appears we will be right in the normal range for
the next few days.
Monday, January
5th, 2009
High -6°C Low -17°C
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The Chinook blew in last
night after midnight and temperatures have risen. I was afraid that my
snow blowing efforts might drift in, but it appears there was little drifting in
spite of strong winds.
I took a look at
BEE-L. Seems the boys (where are the girls?) are playing nice over
there. Nothing earth-shattering, but decent, informed discussion.
I suppose, if history can be a guide, someone will decide to start an uproar
and it will get through moderation. That is the reason for my
one-month rule. Every so often things get civilized and the level of
discussion goes up, and people get their hopes up, but then someone has to
bring it down. The list never makes it through an entire month without some
sort of debacle. I'd love to be proven wrong, but this is the cycle, and
moderation never sees it happening -- or enjoys the mess.
This is not a
problem for some, but each go-round, the more sensitive and mannerly people
(and the women?)
tend to leave the room or simply shut up, so this process continually
selects the list participants and determines the evolution and direction of
the list. We all know that there are many knowledgeable people who
could and would contribute a lot to BEE-L and some have made an effort in
the past, but we have seen them driven out by ignorant and insensitive
comments or by the low level of some discussion.
I understand that
the list tries to be all things to all people, but as such it fails all but
the most persistent adherents. Some cite the ideal of "Free Speech",
but fail to understand that on a narrow channel, this is an impossibility.
The flow must be managed. A list is a narrow channel. Some have
tried to get around this limitation by establishing forums, which allow
parallel access, rather than serial like a list, but, of course, what
happens is the participants splinter off into small interest groups and
seldom meet. A well-run and well-weeded list can offer a
spectrum of ideas, but the narrowness of the channel must be understood, and
chatter and posts falling below a threshold must be suppressed to make it
useable and high-grade. Slashdot and some other forums have an
interesting way of including all input, but not displaying the least useful
or popular. Unfortunately this impossible on a list, unless the
sub-list feature or a nested list feature is invoked.
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just a method of worrying before you spend money, as well as
afterward. -- Anonymous |
El and I are both
feeling a bit under the weather today: aches and pains and tired. The
temperature did get up above freezing in the afternoon, so I went out and
started the forklift and tried to move the car, which was blocking the
doors. It would not start and I found the new battery was completely
flat. The key had been left slightly on. I boosted it, moved it
and left the charger on it. I hope the battery was not damaged by
freezing. It was not bulged, so maybe we'll be lucky.
All this was in order to
get at the snowmobile. I got it out, gave it a shot of ether and it fired
right up. I took a quick run and noticed it was a bit sluggish and smelled
of gas. On examination, I found that one of the fuel hoses had cracked at
the nipple and gas was pouring out. That was quickly fixed and I
took another short run. I'll have to do something about the missing
windshield, I suppose -- the wind is cold and snow comes up over the cowling
when hitting drifts -- and dress up a bit, then take a run around the country.
We are expecting some warmer weather for the next few days.
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6th, 2009
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I was planning to
go to Calgary today, since I have things to do and my sailing club meets
tonight, but we'll see. I still have aches and pains.
I notice that,
immediately after my comment yesterday, a woman posted to BEE-L. It was
only one line or so, but...
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I went to Calgary
and did some shopping before attending the
Bluewater Cruising Association
meeting. This is a group of hardcore sailors, usually couples who sail
small boats across oceans. Two thirds of them are currently offshore
somewhere in the world. One couple sitting across from me are
currently tied up in London, England and just flew home for a few days.
They spend much of their time in the Mediterranean, but plan to take their
boat up to Sweden this summer.
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An economic
forecaster is like a cross-eyed javelin thrower: they don't win many
accuracy contests, but they keep the crowd's attention. -- Anonymous
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The shopping? I
bought more memory for both laptops: 1GB for the Gateway MX6424 XP Pro machine
to take it to 1.5GB, and 2GB for the Acer Aspire 5630 (Vista Home) to take it to
3 GB. The Gateway memory was much more expensive at $79, the 2GB stick was
only $40. I may buy another later for a total of 4GB. Although Vista
can normally only use three, it can be configured to use 4. (Refs:
1.
2.
3
4) I also bought some yeast, acid and nutrients for mead making, and
some groceries on the way home.
When I pulled into the
SuperStore gas bar to fill up, my card was refused. That particular card,
and only that card, gets me a 10c/litre coupon with purchase, and it is fully
paid up, so I was surprised and annoyed. I went into the store, and
phoned. After the usual bevy of annoying canned messages and a short wait,
I was told that there was suspected fraud on the account and that the card would
be replaced in 7 to 10 days. All I can say is that it is a good thing I
carry more than one card -- and cash. There is a lesson in there
somewhere. these days with banks under the gun, they are not to be
trusted.
I have told my
beekeeping friends to be sure they do not need their operating loans, but to
take term loans where they can, and raise cash because the banks, when they
get into a crunch, cut loans, and will even cut off the best of customers
first, because they are the easiest to collect from! That money in
your account today is not yours if the bank yanks your loans. Your
cheques will bounce. It is also wise to keep a week or two's supply of
cash on hand in case there is a bank holiday or credit card crisis. (Coming
soon to your neighbourhood?)
Wednesday, January
7th, 2009
High -9°C Low -17°C
Normals: Max: -5°C
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Another dull, cold day.
I have some new toys to play with, though: memory to install. Hopefully
the extra 512K will help the Gateway run virtual machines better. My Linux
distros need more memory for video to give better smoothing of fonts and images.
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A man's
ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education,
and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed
be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment
and hope of reward after death.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955) |
I spent some time
reading BEE-L this morning. I have to say that the information flow is
excellent, with a variety of participants. In fact, the flow is getting a
bit too heavy, with a chat component creeping in. This gets to be the
problem. Ideally, people should contribute well-considered,
well-researched and well-written articles. Whenever that happens, though,
there are inevitably questions, and, while that leads to clarifications and
insights it can also break down into chatter. Some contributors are more
prone to that than others.
I received
Malcolm's newsletter by email, too. (Subscribe
here). I don't really know what to think about it anymore.
It used to be a very useful newsletter, but lately has just become a tout
for Bee Culture magazine (BC). Frankly, writing for a commercial enterprise
saps creativity. That is why I quit writing for BC myself. I
enjoyed writing what I knew and was inspired about, but when writing what
was requested, I started feeling like a whore, and just could not do it with
a feeling of integrity.
Malcolm has one
of the most incisive minds and can be a very good writer when it come to
beekeeping, but I'm afraid he has lost interest, or been used up by reading
and distilling BC, and the newsletter shows it. Oh, well. Every
dog has his day, and everything passes. IMO, he should let someone
else synopsise Bee Culture and put his efforts into writing something more
useful to readers. The BC stuff can still tag along at the end for
anyone who does not get BC. For most of us who are expecting to get
Malcolm's insights, that whole section is a huge annoyance. I'd
unsubscribe, but keep hoping...
While shopping last
night, picking up the memory, I stood near a large screen TV and felt heat
radiating out of it. Wow! I thought. What does this thing draw?
I asked, and the clerk looked it up. "800 Watts", was the answer.
Wow! That is equivalent o a small space heater. I had read that
power consumption varies a lot between models, so this is definitely something
to think about when purchasing.
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The
skep
Its enthusiasts
Many new
amateur beekeepers adopt the modern hive for its frames and
appearance. A good number of owners of skeps nevertheless remain
faithful to their system. The majority are wise country folk who
prefer certainty, even probability. But the years pass without
them seeing evidence of their mistake.
Here is
an observation that leads to the same conclusion. In the village
where I was born each family had its apiary. Each winter, all my
childhood friends ate an abundance of delicious bread and honey,
just as I did.
Twenty
years later, I was the only person who had beehives. In some
gardens, there was an abandoned Dadant or Layens hive, empty of
course. The owners had let themselves be tempted by the
advertisement of some on displays at agricultural shows. They
believed they would do better with these modern hives. In fact
they abandoned the only hive that suited them. |
Those who read these
pages regularly know that
I have reservations
about the modern hive. In looking through Malcolm's newsletter, I
noticed a link to a site that
has
this book available. Here (at right) is an excerpt.
I haven't read the whole
thing and I'm not too sure about Warre hive, especially with its many top bars.
I'm more inclined to think that bottom supering with empty boxes that have
crossbars to attach the comb, like a migratory skep and that the supers should
be removed by pulling through a wire when the time comes for that job. On
the other hand, one of the characteristics of skep beekeeping is that hives that
get strong should swarm, and that is how increase is obtained.
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Have mentioned Maxthon
lately? Maxthon2 is simply the best
browser. Check it out.
That having been said, I
just downloaded Safari for
Windows to check it out. I have quite a few browsers (Firefox, Maxthon,
Micro$oft Internet Exploder 8 (beta), Opera 10 (beta), Konquerer, Lynx, and some
I forget) and run some or all of them on at least seven different operating
systems (Ubuntu, Fedora, Windows XP and Vista, Windows server 2003, DSL, Knoppix)
, but I have to say that at first blush, Safari looks FAST!
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Making Sense out of
Chaos Dept. (Not). One of the things I have learned in this long life
is to never take a lesson where there is none. People really want to
see patterns where there are none, or the Rorschach test would never have
caught on.
I notice that pretty
well everyone now actually believes that global warming is mostly a man-made phenomenon.
To me, this is amazing, but what can we expect? As history has been
recorded, the world has been dominated by people with
contradictory and preposterous ideas that were believed at the time but now look
silly.
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Faith is
believing what you know ain't so. -- Mark Twain (1835-1910) |
Personally, I do
believe that the world is warming in recent years, but I am also aware that the
world has been warming at the current pace, with some fluctuation, for thousands of years.
This process began long before humans became a
significant environmental influence -- if you don't count hunting quite a few
large mammals to extinction -- and in fact, it is that very warming that has
made possible the current human population explosion!
Peter D. sent me
this URL It is
interesting, but not too meaningful to me. Climate fluctuates. Greenland had
farmland not too long ago. The Northwest Passage was open early in the
last century. How soon we forget.
This Anthropogenic
Global Warming argument (AGW) is almost totally bogus IMO, but it is a great profit
centre and nobody finds it practical to point out that the Emperor has no clothes.
It is so convenient; everyone gets something out of this new religion. Some get authority, some get
money, some get something to believe in or fear -- and we all get a much needed excuse to cut
back on real forms of pollution and excess consumption as we embark on this
quixotic venture.
AGW is sorta like the
CCD in the States. Nobody can really nail it down, even after all this
time, and maybe it does not really exist, bujt what does that matter?
Almost nobody cares or dares cry "fake", since everybody is making tons of
money off it and people won't bite the hand that feeds them. It is perfect.
Beekeepers get compensation or a cover for carelessness and/or bad luck,
researchers get tons of money and everyone gets sympathy. Bonus!
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"We always
overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and
underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten." Bill
Gates |
Time flies. It's
Thursday already.
I took a look at BEE-L
and see that BEE-L
moderation is permitting personal slams against researchers -- still! I
have ranted and raved about this to no avail. Such
traffic has cost BEE-L is reputation. Researchers shun the list due to the
bad manners and bashing going on periodically and enabled by permissive
moderation. I really don't know why bother with moderation at all if this type
of content is permitted. What is the point?
You have to ask yourself this: if this is publically funded list run on a
university server, howcum almost no university and exactly zero government (USDA/URS)
people post there anymore? Sure, the writer has a
point, and maybe he is even right, but the same thing could have been
said politely and without an personal attack. Sad. Frankly, I think
it is time the U at A shut the list down.
I give up. I can see now that I'll never return to
BEE-L. This is trash. I was right to leave the previous time and any
thought of returning is proving unrealistic. I think I'll check out
BeeSource again,
although I doubt it is any better. I do have my list, but after a bit of a
start, it has little traffic. I could promote it and feed material into
it, but I am really not motivated.
* *
* * * *
*
Looking back over
the past few days, my writing could be construed as being a bit negative.
Actually, I feel quite positive about these various things in the sense that
to me identifying and discussing something is the beginning of changing it.
Usually, at least, but I can see I will never change BEE-L, so I have to
move on -- again. As for the AGW crowd, well, it gives me something to
laugh at and a perfect proof that people can believe anything, when I am
doubting my own sanity. I really should appreciate Malcolm's epistles
more, or unsubscribe, and I should run some skeps. After all I have a
hundred or so standard hives, and no skeps!
* *
* * * *
*
OK. I went to
BeeSource and was
impressed right off, having hit the commercial/pollination section. I
prefer email lists, since they are easier to navigate -- things either come or
they don't, but this may just be fine. We'll see. Last time I spent
any time there, I was not too impressed, but seem there are some real beekeepers
there now. I get tired of posers.
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* * * *
*
My computer adventures
are proceeding. I'm running a variety of operating systems and finding
they all need constant updating -- even the Linux distros.
What does this mean? Is
it possible that:
-
things are improving
so fast that we can't be without enhancements?
-
the original version
was so badly flawed that we can't go one more day without it falling apart?
-
the software is so
complex that nobody knows how it really works until it breaks?
-
bandits out there
are so smart that they are breaking in all over the place?
-
progress is
accelerating to the point where we will have updates twice a day and a whole
new O/S every week as a result?
If these O/Ss were
automobiles, they would have to be rebuilt or patched every time we pulled in
for gas.
Anyhow, the added memory
did help the XP machine run the VM, but 1.5 GB is still not a lot and having 2
GB, like the other machine has, makes a big difference. The XP machine has
been running slow and stalling (I really give my machines a workout), so I
uninstalled IE8 beta from both machines. I think I see a difference.
I thought the browsers were faster when I installed IE8, now I think the
machines are faster with it gone. Hmmm.
Having felt a desperate
need for a 1 terabyte external drive, I find that one week after buying it I have not
stored one byte on it, although I did partition it into two, with FAT 32 and a NTFS partitions. The reason for that is that FAT
won't manage files over
4 GB and I have several VMs that are over 20.
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9th, 2009
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Normals: Max: -5°C
Min: 17°C
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Seeing as it is
currently minus nineteen, I don't see how the low for the day will be minus
nine (above).
I installed the 2GB
stick into the Acer and was surprised to open System Information and see:
Installed Physical
Memory (RAM) 3.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 3.00 GB
Available Physical Memory 1.458 GB
Where did it all go?
Is the new stick being used? What is "Available Physical Memory"? Is
it static or dynamic?
I started a VM,
refreshed the System Info, and saw Available Physical Memory drop to "Available
Physical Memory 0.98 GB". That is good. If I still had two GB on
board, I'd have run out, or the system would be swapping more pages out.
At $40 a 2GB stick, I may just go for one more. The memory for the Gateway
is much more expensive, and although I'd love top take it up to 2GB, I wonder if
it is worth it. It is an older machine now, with broken hinges, so is only
used at home. Another $79 is 10% of the way up to a new machine with 3 or
4 GB, a larger drive and a new O/S, besides, I am really tempted by that Acer
One for $399.
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* * * *
*
My bees are still
unwrapped and it is getting to be the time when they benefit from wrapping.
In early winter, the bees don't need wraps, but as the bees age and the cluster
gets smaller and brooding approaches, wraps make a huge difference. Maybe
today. I had hoped that Jean and Mckenzie would be going skiing today, but
I guess not, so I have an excuse to do the wrapping. It will take an hour,
max, and I have everything ready.
It looks like a good day
for a snowmobile ride as well.
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* * * *
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Taken from
Ubuntu site :
Wubi allows users to install and uninstall Ubuntu like any other
Windows application. It does not require a dedicated partition, nor
does it affect the existing bootloader, yet users can experience a
dual-boot setup almost identical to a full installation. Wubi works
with a physical CD or in stand-alone mode, by downloading an
appropriate ISO to install from. It can be found on the root of the
CD as Wubi.exe. A full installation within a dedicated partition is
still recommended, but Wubi is a great way to try Ubuntu for a few
days and weeks before committing dedicated disk resources.
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For anyone who wants to
try Ubuntu without fuss or muss, here is a
solution.
Wubi installs Ubuntu
8.10 on your Windows machine without any hassle. I think that, from my
experience, though, that a machine with at least a GB or two and a sizeable HD
is advisable. The download is almost a gig, and the install needs five GB
minimum. Ubuntu is really fun and has plenty of free software. I
haven't tried wubi, since I have the .iso already, and several Ubuntu installs
running already, and when I tried the wubi downloader, the process said it would
take twelve hours. Apparently it is not supposed to take more than a few
minutes, so I blame my Internet connection or bad timing. Maybe the
servers were bogged with requests, since Wubi was recently publicised.
Actually, if you have
the Ubuntu ISO (get it here)
burned to a disk, it turns out that the download is unnecessary! See
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1570 for details!
OK. Here goes.
I'm rebooting the XP machine with the Ubuntu 8.10 CD, burned from the downloaded
ISO. Should I do a side-by-side install, or use wubi?
The wubi install can be moved to a USB stick and carried around. I
have a 8GB stick handy. Hang on...
Reboot..
It's up.
I'm now checking the CD
(DVD actually) for defects. Always a good idea to be sure it does not have
a fatal defect that could cause a crash in mid-install.
Result = No errors found
Reboot..
Next: A memory check
from the CD menu again. Good idea with new memory installed.
(While it is running,
and this takes a long while, I'm reading
BeeSource.
Check this out.
I'm also looking
this site
over. Some interesting CCD comments. I decided to join.
OK. Memory is OK.
I decided to install. After a bunch of CD activity, the Welcome screen is
up. (I worry about blowing away my XP installation, but am assured by my reading
that I won't).
I'm answering questions.
The release notes did not come up. Now the partitioner has started. It
thinks a bit and now shows me the disk and suggests Ubuntu would like 28% or
18.9 GB. I can't recall how much that leaves for Windows beyond what is in
current use. I look at the alternatives and say, "OK", then, "Continue".
Well, the partitioner
sat a long time, then threw an error. I went to the next step and it
showed the whole disk being committed to Ubuntu if I proceeded. I exited
and prayed that Windows had not been wiped out. Thankfully. I saw Windows
start to boot, but then stop at a disk check recommendation. I chose to
check, and checkdisk is running...
Well, thankfully XP is
coming up. I'll be interested to see what the HD allocation looks like.
Hmmm. 80 GB total. I thought there was more than that. Oh,
well. I'll try wubi now.
Minutes later, I am done
installing and am now rebooting and find I am at boot menu. I choose
Ubuntu, and here it comes, booting from the HD... The Ubuntu Emblem with a
moving line and .... Nothing. Black screen. No disk action. Nothing.
I wait.
Five minutes should be
long enough. I try again. This time the X server starts and the
installation begins.
A few reboots later, we
are running Ubuntu. The screen resolution does not look quite right and
the network does not seem to be connected. Hmmmm. Work to do.
Rebooting hangs again.
Again Hmmmm.
OK. It's up again.
Still no wireless Internet recognised. I hook up a cable. That
works, and start updating... 219 updates are waiting for this new installation.
The marquee says 12 hours, then 2 hours, then 14 hours...
* * *
* * * *
The weather has proven
to be cool and breezy. Hardly a great outdoors day. We went to Drum
to shop and have supper with the Meijers. Sam showed up, too.
On returning home I
finished the updates on Ubuntu and a few small problems cleared up. I also
discovered the Wubi wiki, with
lots of info. For some reason, I did not see it on the main page. It
would have come in handy. I still don't know if I have some free space on
my HD.
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10th, 2009
High 1°C Low -10°C
Normals: Max: -5°C
Min: 17°C
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Looks like a nice
few days coming up.
I got some feedback in
my AWG comments several days back and a ref to
this site. I don't really want to get into this debate, since arguing
with the converted is a waste of time. I should refer those who can read
charts, though to
the
chart which was behind Al Gore in "An inconvenient Truth".
(BTW, for PDFs, uninstall Adobe Reader and install
Foxit --
much faster/better).
A close examination
shows that although there is a correlation between CO2 levels, sea
levels, and temperature, no definite cause and effect can be proven
between CO2
and temperature, using this data because sometimes the temperature rises
before the CO2 and sometimes the reverse. In
fact in the current warming, the CO2 obviously follows the
temperature rise. There are plenty of reasons for this, since the topic is
complex. Suffice it to say that the proof is just not there, in this chart
at least, and we must remember that this chart is quite contrived by
superimposing data that is deduced on other data which is only deduced, using
arbitrary scales. If you are a thinking person, you might also wonder how
and where they measured sea level, since the
continents rise and fall and drift
over periods of time. Seems somewhat subjective to me, but interesting.
I imagine everyone is
familiar with the news that
Y2K Caused the Global Warning Panic?
More
More
So much for that (I
hope).
* * *
* * * *
In the afternoon, it
warmed up enough that I was out blowing snow in my shirtsleeves for a half-hour
or so.
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>
I have a request for heating 80 drums of honey per week. Any hints for a good
design of heating room.
I have built several, and seen quite a few set-ups. and there are a few things
one needs to know.
I am assuming the intent is to melt the honey or to get it soft enough to come
out of the barrels.
Melting hardened honey right in the drums is
not ideal, since the drums are not stainless steel and, under heat, some
chemical leaching from paint is possible if the drums are not the very best.
Also, it takes time for heat to soak through
to the middle of the drum. Therefore the outside honey, which melts first, is
kept much hotter much longer than ideal -- and much longer than necessary under
other, better methods.
Nonetheless, it is a good idea to warm drums up to 30 or 35 degrees C for a few
days or a week before melting in any kind of hot room so that the actual melting
takes the minimum time possible.
Most honey plants I have seen invert drums in a hot box (~50 degrees C) over a
grid of pipes with circulated hot water (50-70 degrees C). That way, the air is
hot enough to liquefy the honey that is in contact with the drums and the whole
slug of honey slides down under its own weight, and is pressed by gravity
against the hot pipes which quickly melt it so that it runs quickly away from
the heat, down into the tank below.
The 3 to 4 cm stainless steel or galvanized pipes are separated by about 4 to 5
cm, so the honey drops in sheets as it melts into the tank below and which is
stirred and heated to slightly above the melting point of the honey.
This way, the honey is melted quickly and not in contact with higher heat for
long. If melted in drums, the outer honey has to get quite hot for quite a while
until the heat penetrates in to the centre of the drum, or the process will take
a very long time. Since melting honey, like melting ice takes a lot of heat,
this is slow. Also, when the last of the honey finally melts, the temperature
may suddenly jump up, since there is no solid honey left to absorb the heat
being applied. More below. |
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* * * *
Speaking of hot rooms,
my wife and I decided around four this afternoon that we need a sauna (she is a
Finn). Actually, it was my idea. I've been planning to build one for
a long time, but we are not beside a lake and don't need a family-size sauna and
the energy needs that big sauna has. I has seen one of those tiny, dry
saunas on sale at Canadian Tire for an affordable price, and it is cool here on
the prairie in winter, even in a large, well-heated building like this.
The debate: whether a hot box with no running water or drain is really a sauna.
I think we agreed that it is not, but sauna is just a word. A hot closet
with a shower nearby can serve. We read the reviews online and decided
that the six out of seven buyers giving high ratings outvoted the only
complainer.
So, we phoned the stores
and finally found a store with one left, and got into the van. It is a 65
mile drive one way. I left at 5
and was back by 8. By 8:15 we had it unpacked and by 8:30, we had agreed where to put
it.
By 9, it was plugged in
and running. At 10, Ellen went to have a sauna and found it had quit (it
apparently takes about an hour to get good and hot). I looked at it and played with
the controls -- digital, of course -- and found that it worked fine until
I activated the elements -- or even turned on the light. I worried that
the controls were bad and the warranty says to send it to the factory in Quebec
and they will decide whether to be helpful or not. It weighs 300lbs, ...some warranty!. I was starting to side with the complainer.
Then a flashbulb went
off and I looked up and realized that the power connection must be poor.
Whenever any load was applied to the circuit, the voltage must be dropping below
the level required to run the controls. I plugged it in an extension and now
expect to be soaking up some heat shortly Here I go...
Sunday, January
11th, 2009
High 4°C Low -12°C
Normals: Max: -5°C
Min: 17°C
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How was the sauna, you
ask? (I'm used to saying, 'steam bath', but this unit has no steam). It was OK.
Not great, but OK. When I got in the temp was 122 F, since it was midnight
and I was not willing to wait another half-hour to see if it would make it to
166 as advertised. The temperature did climb 10 degrees while I was in
there. We'll see. It is definitely better than nothing and will be a
boon for times when we are feeling a bit chilled. I think adding a steam
kettle might be a good idea, as well.
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A
dysfunctional family is a family in which conflict, misbehaviour and
even abuse on the part of individual members of the family occur
continually,
leading other members to accommodate such actions... Much more at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysfunctional_family
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Here is an
interesting comment that pretty well proves what I have been saying.
Several others have commented in the same vein. The remnant on BEE-L
seems to like the distractions.
"I've
been lurking and reading every word of bee-l for years. I've
seen things get feisty and usually get some entertainment value
from it. To characterize Jims post as "vitriolic" may itself
contain some vitriol. I didn't see it and was surprised at your
note".
I
don't know what to think. Some of the people I find worthwhile
friends hang out here. If I don't read it, I don't know what
they are up to. If I do read, I have to wade through garbage.
I guess I come to the same conclusion others have. Read, but
never post. Comment and discuss off-line. |
I've been reading
BeeSource and the discussions look good. The advantage is that everyone is
not forced to share one channel and not subjected to abuse when one member goes
rogue. I see that BEE-L is in one of its regular spirals with everyone
speculating in response to a simple question which has been answered. I'm
more and more convinced that people participating in BEE-L are there for the
abuse as much or more than the discussion.
Dysfunctional family?
I think so, and have been saying so in so many words for some time. The only
reason I have stuck it out so long is my long-time association with BEE-L from
its better days and my friendship with Aaron.
Speaking of BeeSource, I
am particularly interested in the patty feeding discussion. It looks as if
many of the participants in the discussion are hobbyists or part-timers, and
more interested in playing with their bees than actually getting the job done
right. Some either cannot find the instructions or cannot read them.
Some are trying to reinvent the wheel and adding 'secret ingredients'. One
fellow is up to 10% lipids, if I read his posts correctly. This should be
interesting.
* * *
* * * *
I have been
interested in protein feeds for quite a long time and experimented and
written quite a bit, but the fact remains that I know very little. At
any rate, I should accumulate everything I know somewhere accessible.
I think that I
can claim to have planted the seed that grew into at least three of the supplements
on the market. Years back, we discussed the question on BEE-L and I
became a strong advocate of
feeding after I saw what good feed had done for our own hives.
With my neighbours, and the input from some large beekeepers in California
who have fed yeast for many years, , I came up with a basic, inexpensive
formula that worked and initially made it at home, then had a Hutterite
Colony make it, followed by some fellows in Airdrie. The Airdrie
outfit grew into Global.
Global uses that same formula -- among others -- to the present, and it has
stood up against many other formulas in tests. As far as bang for the
buck is concerned, it is hard to beat.
Seeing as we were
always looking to improve, I decided we needed to run trials and we (an
informal consortium of commercial beekeepers) went looking for a student to
hire. We had hired Adony some time before and that had worked out
well. I approached several universities in the east and considered one
particular student. The supervisor wanted to make big bucks on the bee
feed idea, though, and since we felt that this project was financed by
beekeepers, then the formula should be open to all, declined. Moreover, we
felt that no beekeeper should put anything into the hive that is unknown or
proprietary due to contamination concerns. That group went on the
develop FeedBee -- a proprietary product.
Medhat wanted to
to do the study, so he did one. It proved we are on the right track.
His work proved out the yeast/soy/sugar/pollen formulas and also showed that
FeedBee did not seem to measure up, at least in that test. He also
proved that old ingredients result in patties that do not work at all.
Even before that,
I recall sitting in a bar in Phoenix with a large group of USDA scientists
out on the town during convention. I somehow wound up sitting beside a
fellow I did not know and who was not exactly on the USDA payroll, but
rather a researcher with a small Tucson company looking for a meaningful
project. He asked my opinion and I listed my top three at the time.
Nutrition was number one, resistant (non-susceptible) genetics was number
two, and I forget number three. At any rate, I gave him a huge sales
pitch for the need for work on nutritional supplements and the need for a
real pollen substitute, seeing as I really am lazy and have tried
to inspire others to do the grunt work. The rest, as they say, is history.
There is a sequel to this, but that is for another time.
I guess I can
claim one more credit -- indirectly . Up until the new products came
onto the market, Mann Lake offered a BeePro patty, but it was gooey, awkward, expensive
and badly packaged. After Global showed them how to do it, and how big
the market actually was, they copied
the Global format with their own secret concoction and dropped their prices
drastically.
To this date work still
remains to be done. I have not tackled it, since it needs money, and quite
a bit. We need to refine the timing and amount of feed, the question of
feeding during pollination, and what improvements can be made in the formulas.
I would take it on, but it is a huge, multi-year project, and perhaps should be
international in scope.
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Each problem
that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other
problems. -- Rene Descartes (1596 - 1650)
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The sauna: My
wife used it this afternoon and rated it 5 out of 10. That's pretty
good, after all, she is a Finn For me, my reference point is the
saunas we used as kids. They would hit 160 degrees, no problem, and if
it was too hot on the top bench, you'd go down a bit. In winter you'd
roll in the snow, or occasionally chop/saw a hole in the ice and alternate
soaking for five minutes in the ice water with ice slivers tinkling around
you and sitting in the hot sauna. Breathing was something to do
carefully and blowing on your own skin, painful. This sauna barely hit
137 after an hour or more and is cool on the floor. It's OK, but
definitely only a five. That said, any sauna is better than none.
I'll likely add an auxiliary heater and a weatherstrip on the door.
I discovered why the
unit was problematic last night. That circuit had blown, but there is some
sort of ground fault that keeps the circuit semi-alive when the breaker is off.
There was enough to run the electronics and fool me, but not enough for even the
light. That is something to think about if you turn off power and trust
the fixtures are not live anymore. Always short to neutral and ground
before playing with a 'dead' wire.
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More mild weather.
I see we have hoar frost this morning
The
HoneyBeeWorld List
seems to be taking off lately. There is some interesting discussion taking
place there now.
I started the forklift
and took out some ashes today. (We burn coal). I had intended to
wrap the hives, but the time ran out, and tomorrow looks to be warmer yet.
I prefer not to disturb the bees any more than necessary late in the day when it
is cold out.
Ellen went to Drum and
took her work out of the gallery there, having grown tired of the politics.
Her work can be seen on her website.
I spent quite a bit of
time on the list and reading, plus did some cleanup. I have a lot of that
to do.
It is looking as if I am
going to have to start spending more time on bee nutrition. In recent
years, interest has grown and people are getting quite inventive. Is there
anything to these ideas? See my comments further down.
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The
chart at right was offered by Juanse Barros.
Allen
I have found this interesting graph which provides hard evidence on
the temperature behaviour "at the centre" of the drums installed in
groups of 32 in a room set up to 45 º C.
It took five
days for the center to arrive to "room" temperature 45º.
Maybe a good
input to your diary post is this graph or some data of your
own.
Thanks for that. I have done that
and I'd appreciate the source, so I can give appropriate credit.
Any accompanying information would be useful, as well.
We note that the honey hit 40
degrees at the end of day 3, and the total is liquid then.
We do not know the temperature of
the room and if it is changed over time or how the air is
circulated. I would assume it is decreased after day 3, since
the temperature of the honey drops after peaking. We also do not
know if the honey in the drum is stirred. The equation is not
explained, either.
Holding some kinds of honey at such
temperatures for that length of time could cause serious
darkening and flavour change. Other sorts are hardly affected.
The problem is that we never know until after.
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There is talk of rain
today. It is currently plus 6 and, although we are expecting temps to
drop, I see my snowmobile snow fading away.
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From the
HoneyBeeWorld List
> I just spoke to a commercial beek that feeds very high
concentration of canola oil (can't remember percent, but above
10%) and feels that bees do > well.
That is what scares me. Beekeepers often 'feel', not measure or
compare. Beekeepers read literature and misunderstand the context,
units of measure, geometry and history (small cell?), or the syntax
and get 'notions'. I see it all the time. As a result, they may be
doing things that actually hinder the bees and never know they are
shooting themselves in the foot. What possible justification can
there be for such high levels of lipids? And I guess I should ask,
is that based on dry weight, wet weight -- or what? For that matter,
I know beekeepers who cannot even calculate percentage reliably, but
who can talk very convincingly. Beekeepers talk to one another and
an idea reinforces itself each time it goes around the loop. Can we
expect 20% lipids soon?
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Fear does
not have any special power unless you empower it by submitting to
it.
Les Brown, Communication Bulletin for Managers & Supervisors, June
2004
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Apologies if I sound (what is the word?) incredulous,
unconvinced... I have to confess that I really have not done my
homework and may not have been in the loop lately, and I am writing
here to get straightened out, so straighten me out :)
> I've spoken with Zack about ethyl oleate, but didn't ask him if
he suspected consumption of oleic acid would contribute. I've done
some > searching on metabolic pathways, with no luck.
I wrote to Zack, but have not heard back yet. I also invited him
to join in. Please mention the list to other people who will not get
involved in a public list where they are exposed to abuse, and
promise we will do our best to protect members (and non-members)
from such treatment.
To me the question is much like cholesterol in the human diet. It
was long assumed that consumption of cholesterol would result in
elevated cholesterol on the blood. It has been proven not to be so
simple, and to be only true in a small subset of the population, and
not true in the majority of people.
My goal in feeding is not only to do good, but to do no harm, and
to use a formula that can be used at all times and all places with
positive results that are measurable and which produce the most
benefit from each marginal penny spent. This, of course, is a hard
thing to comprehend, so if compromised have to be made, I prefer to
make them, on the conservative side.
> Check my website under Nutrition for the formula that I am
currently > testing with very good results.
OK. Are you running controls? (Maybe I will have an answer after
reading).
BTW, feel free to copy and paste any interesting topic from
anywhere into a message here, and please do invite those whom you
respect to join us. Feel free to forward any messages you think
worthwhile as examples.
The join-up or leave URL is at the bottom of every post.
allen
http://www.honeybeeworld.com/diary/2003/diary051003.htm
---
For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a
way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
(1918 - )
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I went for a snowmobile
ride in the afternoon, but found the machine sluggish. It normally
can do 50 MPH, but was not doing more than about 20 today. The snow is
heavy, and that may be part of the problem, but I also think the gas in the tank
is old, and the machine needs a tune-up.
I've been watching
re-runs of Quantum
Leap on DVD the past few evenings. Quite entertaining. As I
recall, someone told me that Dean Stockwell (Al) was/is a member of a
California/Arizona beekeeping family.
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> The best I have found about fatty acids in diet is Rob Manning
thesis.
> http://adt.caul.edu.au/homesearch/find/?recordid=148811&format=main
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Of the 22 diets tested, pure redgum pollen diets gave the greatest
life-span and those bees fed diets of pure sugar had the shortest life.
Honey bees fed a low-fat protein *concentrate* from soya bean flour had
the longest life of the flours tested.
Adding pollen to soya bean flour diets improved longevity whereas the
addition of pollen to lupin flour caused increased mortality.
Defatted and full-fat soya bean flours gave similar longevities and,
despite large differences in fat content, the response to diet of head
weight was negligible to the diets and no response was elicited by the
queen bee to lay eggs which also indicated failed gland development of
the worker bees.
The addition of fatty acid (oleic and linoleic) to pollen at different
concentrations caused significant differences in longevity. Overall, the
addition of both fatty acids to pollen did not improve longevity.
The addition of oleic acid to pollen greater than 2 % caused the
longevity of bees to decrease, a poor head weight response and a failure
of the queen to lay eggs.
The addition of linoleic acid greater than 6 % to pollen diets had a
similar response.
As the percentage of oil was increased for both fatty acid additions,
total consumption of the diet decreased.
Honey bees fed soya bean, lupin flour and sugar-only diets failed to
accumulate linoleic acid in their body which was in contrast to honey
bees fed pollen diets".
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Thanks. I have been poring over this and concluded that, although it
does not answer the question directly, the safest conclusion to draw
from it is what I have heard before: that levels of lipids in soya flour
formulations over a few percent can be counterproductive by reducing
consumption and/or longevity.
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We were planning to go
the Red Deer today, but one look out the window made that look like a bad idea.
We are getting a heavy fall of fluffy snow -- the kind that blows badly when the
wind starts up, making driving dangerous. We are having a colder day today
-- about normal -- but expect to return to above normal again tomorrow.
I blew out the driveway
and started on the walk. An extension cord that was under the snow got
into the auger and that put an end to the snow blowing for the morning.
Ellen was in a hurry to go to Red deer, so off we went..
It took me an hour or so
to pull the blower back straight, change the shear pin and oil and get outside.
It is warm and pleasant today. I got the whole drive blown out and got a
good workout in the process. Although the machine is self-driven, it takes
effort to guide it and turn it around.
Strange. There is
no traffic on either BEE-L or HoneyBeeWorld this morning. Or this
afternoon, with one or two exceptions.
BTW, if you write me and
I don't respond, please write again. My email is all screwed up and
messages pile up or go over the dam. I'm not stuck up or ignoring you.
The usual gang came for
supper and we had a good evening.
Our warm spell
continues. We're going to lose a lot of snow in the next few days, by the
look of things.
I cleaned up the shop
and did a few other tasks. The sauna now works fairly well. I added
an electric frying pan on the floor and can splash some water on it to make
steam. We're finally achieving 144 degrees F, and that makes for a decent
sauna.
Our warm spell
continues. Days are getting longer fast, and then sun has some warmth now.
That does not mean we are out of the woods. We've had a week of minus
forty in February before.
Here
is a some talk about honey prices.
We continue to talk
about bee nutrition on The
HoneyBeeWorld List. I started compiling
a list
of resources.
I blew some more snow
today and cleared off the walks. We are now into more pleasant weather and
I took the snowmobile out for a spin. It is still acting up. I'm
afraid I'm going to have to strip it down and do some serious fixing.
I wrapped most of the
hives today. I probably should have done it sooner. The job took
fifteen minutes at most. They are all up top. In spite of being in
three boxes, one looked a little short of honey.
The Internet here was
down most of the day.
I've buried myself in
too much reading lately. I'm looking at bee nutrition and trying to
figure if there are any easy, cheap answers. So far, it looks as if we are
pretty much on the money with the formula we chose years ago. There are
plenty of ideas out there, and some formulas can beat the yeast/soy/sugar/pollen
rations, BUT, they either cost a lot more and give less bang for the buck, or
use ingredients that spoil.
I'm off to Three Hills
this afternoon. I have several computer problems. My Gateway has a
broken hinge and chassis from being dropped once too often, and my Acer has an
annoyingly bad touchpad that suddenly goes crazy and takes over the cursor,
bouncing it up and down.
Last summer, a cousin
was out and I found her optical drive and networking was acting up. I
asked around and found that there is a kid in Three Hills who collects old
laptops and has used parts for just about everything. He works in the
local hardware store and they allow him to do a little fixing on the side. He
dealt with the problem at that time very nicely, and I contacted him about my
current problems, so now I'm off to see him and look into fixing these
annoyances.
I went to town and saw
the guy. I had assumed he would be ready for me. He wasn't.
Looks like I'll have to disassemble the machines and take the parts to him
unless I want to be without the computers for some time.
I've been having a good
time over on BeeSource, if you don't count being hassled by a slow learner.
Rather than reproduce them here,
I'll give
this link. You'll have to register on the site to read, though.
I set my options that way. You won't regret looking the site over, if you
pick and choose your threads, One of the big advantages of the forum
format is the fact that there are parallel streams, so you can pick your topics
and expertise levels, assuming that people respect them. You can also set
members on ignore. I've never done that before, but if you read my posts,
you won't have hard time guessing...
Ellen & I drove to
Calgary and took our passports in for renewal. The process took four
hours by the time we got our pictures taken at the AMA, went downtown,
filled in the forms, got El's picture retaken and delivered back to the
passport people. Nonetheless, that is better than taking chances on
applying by mail. That can take well over a month, especially if the
pictures are not accepted the first time around.
Shirley had computer
problems. She got hit by Antivirus 360. It's a nasty Trojan that
pretends to be an Antivirus program on your computer. You pick it up by
visiting clipart and other such websites or by clicking on the wrong ads.
It takes over your computer and no matter what your click on the first popup, it
installs and then keeps nagging, claiming your computer is infected with a list
of nasty things, when actually it is the only nasty actually on your machine.
It insists you visit its website and pay to have the nasties removed.
Don't do it, but you may find that you cannot connect to any other site.
If you are smart enough to realise the first popup is bogus, kill your browser
without clicking the popup and you should be safe.
If not, then you need
the removal tool, and probably have to download the instructions and the
tool on another computer that still works and transfer the file to the infected
machine with a card, disk, or pen drive. You will have to rename the executable
tool after installing, since otherwise the trojan will shut it down. The
trojan will also not allow you update the tool -- it blocks the Internet,
remember, so after you run it and remove what you find, reboot, start it again
and update, then scan again, remove the nasties again, reboot and you should be
home free.
Bookmark the above link
and
this one, too. You are very likely to come across this pest sometime soon.
If time has passed, there may be more to know, so
use this search for the latest news if you need to.
Wendy and Ken came for
lunch and we spent the afternoon playing Scrabble.
Medhat runs an
Integrated Pest Management Workshop every year. It is a good
party, with attendees from across Canada with speakers from the US and/or
Europe. Everyone is welcome. Pre-registration is appreciated,
since they have to know how much room to reserve and food to order, but you
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I've been
analyzing the use of fumagillin drenches. The method has been getting
popular. I am concerned, though, that beekeepers are applying the dose
that is intended to be added to two gallons of syrup and consumed over
months to a few cups of syrup which are drenched onto the bee cluster at
intervals several times over weeks, forcing the bees to immediately
gorge on the drugged syrup as they lick it off one another. I assume
that each small dose of syrup is metabolized within a day -- or two days
at most, but the drug dosage people apply in it should be enough active
ingredient for a month or more.
Note:
That would be an interesting measurement. How much drug can be found
in the combs one, two days and a week later. Actually colouring the
syrup intensely would probably give a good idea how much, if any is
stored and where.
One beekeeper
reports that the recommended dose has a "75-fold safety margin for
bees". (From Medivet's site). I wonder what toxic means ? LD50? I'll
have to ask Willy. Seems that is a dose one does not want to approach,
since LD50 kills half the bees, and if people are putting the amount of
drug that is recommended for 100 gallons into 5 gallons -- and they are
-- it looks to me as if they are getting close.
On BEE-L they
are talking about fumagillin suppressing the immune system in mammals,
the fact that fumagillin sets bees back, and the search for an alternate
-- and the fact that there is no MRL for fumagillin in many countries,
making it verboten there.
How
does Fumagillin work?
Wikipedia says: "Treatment with the antibiotic
Fumidil B (prepared from
Aspergillus fumigatus, the causative agent of Stone Brood) inhibits the
spores reproducing in the ventriculus, but does not kill the
spores.".
OK. We knew
that fumgilan does not kill spores, but the article says, "inhibits the
spores reproducing in the ventriculus", not "destroys the vegetative
stage". That would imply that a continuous presence would be necessary
to suppress the disease, but that does not seem to be the case. Or is
it? Who knows?
MAAREC says " Fumidil-B (Fumagillin), fed in syrup, have
proven effective in suppressing nosema in over-wintered colonies and
newly-established packages. Since fumagillin does not affect spores of
the nosema parasite, treatment will not completely eliminate the
disease, but only suppress the
vegetative stage. The infection will often continue after the
medicated syrup has been consumed. Fumagillin is less effective when fed
with powdered sugar, extender patties, candy, or pollen supplements."
Malcolm writes
in
APIS:, "According to an article by Dr. Ingemar Fries at the
at the Department of Entomology, Swedish University of Agricultural
Sciences, the antibiotic
fumagillin kills the active stages of nosema, but not the spores,
and it's effect diminishes over time. Experiments show that even when
fumagillin is administered both in the autumn and spring, infection
levels might still be harmful".
Randy has
a good article but does not get into the mechanism of
nosema, and I think knowing that is the key to designing optimal
treatment.
So which is it?
Kill or inhibit? The distinction is important, since killing is a
one-time thing and inhibiting is longer term. The distinction makes all
the difference between expecting a one-time shock treatment to to work,
and having to maintain an effective minimum concentration over time.
If a one-time
shock application wipes out all the currently vegetative disease, then
what is the minimum level and duration of each dose required to achieve
this? And are we far overdosing at current rates? Does anyone know?
All the material I have read simply assumes that the total dose is what
does the trick, and that several episodic treatments at levels
calculated from the per day effective levels achieved during those
longer treatments -- not total dose -- would not be a better
choice.
If four doses
are reported to control the disease, then that would imply that the
action of the drug is quick and immediate, and imply that the repetition
kills each successive wave of spores hatching as they get to the point
where they inflict damage and/or reproduce. How long does it take for
each hatch to become economic?
How long is
the nosema life cycle from spore to spore? That number should determine
the maximum time between doses, if the goal is to prevent sporulation.
The time should be considerably shorter to head off reproduction and
damage to bees . The lifespan of bees enters into this, too, since they
are progressing through generations.
My understanding
is that bees damaged by nosema do not recover, but remain damaged until
death, so the goal should be to minimize damage to bees as well as
reducing the spore load in the hive.
Note: Randy
responded with
a pointer to the results of some tests he did, trying various
treatments. His tests did not show much control for any of them.
Posted to BeeSource
today:
Queen excluders are one of the most common
and most misunderstood pieces of bee
equipment, ranking immediately after the
smoker.
Queen excluders are an expert tool, and as
such are very useful to experts and a rather
chancy for the majority of beekeepers.
There are things to know. Bees are not all
the same size and neither are the gaps in
all excluders, but for most intents and
purposes, we can ignore that fact. I
measured some a while back. I don't know if
it is representative
http://www.honeybeeworld.com/misc/excluders.htm
I did hear of one case where bees that could
go thru some plastic excluders in Montana,
had problems when moved to Maryland. This
from a respected researcher, and he had no
explanation.
That having been said, I have never had
problems using excluders when I applied my
knowledge of bees, but there may be things
outside my personal experience.
I've written about excluders previously, and
some of that can be found via
http://tinyurl.com/cr288b
In summary, however, I have a few rules that
work for me:
1.) Bees that are used to going through
excluders will go through excluders with
little encouragement. Bees that have no
experience with excluders can be reluctant.
2.) When adding supers in the spring, bees
will tend not to go up through supers into
newly added boxes.
Bees are reluctant to expand through
excluders into newly added drawn combs from
storage or foundation unless they
need more brood room than they have under
the excluder. Thus, they will go up more
easily thru an excluder on a single brood
chamber than thru an excluder on a double
brood chamber and -- even more so -- an
excluder on a three-box brood chamber.
All this assumes that the colony has reached
the point where additional room is actually
required.
In fact, in the latter two cases can be a
somewhat difficult, especially when adding
cold excluders and new boxes from storage,
and if there is a honey barrier and the
brood is not near the excluder, they may
just sit there or swarm. Thus, reversing
before adding excluders and supers is
sometimes indicated.
3.) Bees will go back where they were
accustomed to being, excluder or no
excluder.
Example: If you take a hive that is six or
seven boxes high and full of bees top to
bottom and stick excluders between all the
boxes (say, to isolate the queen to one box
so you can find her more easily), the bees
will go up and down as if the excluders are
not there. Of course drones can be trapped
in the boxes and conceivably plug the
excluders, so be careful.
The upshot is that you can insert excluders
into an established, well populated hive
anywhere and not have problems with the bees
passing through.
4.) Bees like equipment that has been
recently occupied by bees and has fresh
scent and warmth, and have less interest in
cold equipment or honey frames that have
been in storage.
As far as cut comb is concerned, I did not
make any intentionally, but did sell full
frames of fresh comb at the farmers market
sometimes. I would not count on making cut
comb without excluders, though unless the
broods were deeps and the cut comb in
shallows. Even then, and even with good
timing, I would not count on getting frames
without brood. Queens just love that new
comb. Some people say they can do it,
though.
In the case of Ross Rounds, the queens just
don't seem to like them. At all.
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Me too, Allen. Or, removing
extracting supers to another
colony in the yard, and making
cut comb on a double brood
chamber?
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Making cut comb is really just the same as
drawing new foundation, except you don't
want the queen to get into it, so an
excluder is required. As explained above, if
the bees are accustomed to a large hive,
when they are forced down into a smaller
brood chamber, they will rebound back into
whatever is placed over the excluder.
Hope this helps.
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We've been discussing
fumigillan drenches and nutrition on the
HoneyBeeWorld List. I hope to post some of it
here, but editing takes time. The material is in
the list archives. Access is for members only, to keep the 'bots out,
so to read it is necessary to
sign up, if you haven't already.
Today, I'm off to
visit Meijers in the afternoon. My passport is ready for pickup in
Calgary today, but it will have to wait for Monday.
I've been quite inactive
lately and feeling a bit crappy. Late December and January is like that
for me. The days are so short and the sun so low in the sky, and the air
is dry and uncomfortable. At any rate, last night I got back on the
treadmill again. It is pretty boring normally, but I set up the video
player in front of it and a mile in 12 minutes goes by quickly. The
exercise makes a difference. I slept better than usual.
In the afternoon, I went
to Meijers for a visit, a swim, and supper.
I went to town for
groceries in the afternoon, then Meijers -- all four -- and P-Ss and Bert Came
for supper.
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