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Thursday 20 November 2003
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Today was cold and breezy. I worked inside all day, but went for a
snowmobile ride in late afternoon to get a picture for this page. The new
snow has drifted and I managed to get the machine stuck, but finally got my
picture. Not much of a picture, but it does convey the feeling of a dull
late November day in Swalwell. I'd love to be somewhere warm these
days, but seem to have a lot of small jobs holding me back.
I noticed recently that the
forum was acting up. Actually some readers were kind enough to let me
know. I kept hoping it would fix itself, but it did not. I got to
thinking, and realized that I probably jiggered it up when I was including it
in a diary page recently. My cursor accidentally landed on some of the
script several times, and I must have accidentally saved the screw-up.
I really do not have a clue about how the thing works, but I grabbed the title
page and did a web search. Luckily, I found a page with the identical
code and replaced the damaged file. It works! Hurrah!
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Today : Cloudy with sunny periods. 60 percent
chance of flurries. High minus 11. / Tonight : Cloudy. 40 percent chance of
flurries. Low minus 20. / Normals for the period : Low minus 11. High
plus 1.
Friday 21 November 2003
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Today the Ontario
meeting gets underway. I'd be there, except, being retired, I have
other things to do, and I do get tired of these events after a while.
The agenda includes several items that could be worthwhile. Eric
Mussen is up from California, and will talk about Queen & Colony Health in
U.S. Beekeeping Operations and Living with Africanized Bees (AHB) in the
Neighbourhood. The former is of interest, since bee health has been a
major excuse for justifying border closure to US imports, but the second topic
is curious, since the likelihood of AHB getting established this far north or
acting like "killer bees" if they did is a bit tenuous. See Dewey Caron's
book on African Bees in the Americas for more info on how AHB acts very much
like (almost indistinguishable from) European Honey Bees (EHB) in
temperate regions. (Who did I lend that book to? Please bring it
back)
Heather Mattila, Department of Environmental Biology, University of Guelph,
will present on the topic: The Effect of Spring Feeding on Worker Quality
and Colony Productive. I believe she had been scheduled to speak at
Kelowna, but been unable to make it. Of course this topic is of great
interest to me, and I am sorry to miss it. I hope that the material will
be in one of the publications soon, and that I will come across it.
Jean Pierre Chapleau, a Quebec Bee Breeder will reveal The IPM Strategy
for Controlling Varroa Mites that Kept our 2003 Winter Loss to 4% in Quebec.
That should be interesting. Jean Pierre is a very careful worker, and
I'm not surprised that he has had success while other Quebec beekeepers took
very heavy losses last winter.
Mentioning Quebec brings to mind a sig line I saw on BEE-L the other day : "Alma, Québec (above 48th parallel north !!)".
Canadians -- even southern Canadians -- think of themselves
as northerners. Seems that, perhaps, I have challenged the easterners to
notice exactly how far north (south?) they really are? Nice try.
This guy is close to making it up into the real Canada (north of 49), and even
close to being considered a prairie southerner by Canadian prairie standards,
but he falls one degree short. I'm in southern Alberta and I am
about 200 miles north of him.
That reminds me that, I wrote to Gard Otis November 9th, offering to
finance some research into feeding in spring and fall, but have had no
reply. I mentioned that there is little problem raising funds for
research that is of actual interest to beekeepers and/or bee suppliers.
Here is an example.
Hi Gard,
I noticed recently that you received a grant to do some work on Spring
and Fall feeding of supplements to honey bee colonies. I'm not sure when
you plan to do the study, or if it is underway, but $4,000 doesn't look
like a big budget.
I am, personally, very interested in this topic, since I have been
using, and promoting use of, supplements for several years now, and
friends of mine have set up a facility to manufacture patties for the
industry. We had been considering doing -- or financing -- some such
studies ourselves, both to determine
1.) the wisdom of fall patty feeding (Does it prolong brood rearing,
and is this a good or bad thing, and does it build up the fat bodies in
the bees?) and
2.) to compare various formulae (soy + yeast + sugar, vs. yeast +
sugar, vs. BeePro + sugar, etc.).
3.) the importance of freshness in ingredients and shelf life of
protein components before and after mixing.
Since we see you are already headed down this path, maybe we can join
forces. I suspect my friends would be glad to help finance the project,
assuming that our projects are headed in the same direction. Although
they would likely want some input into the purposes and design of any
study they funded in part or whole, they would be happy to sit back and
let the chips fall where they may after that point.
allen dick
I don't know if he is away, or not getting his email, or what is
going on. I suppose I'm going to have to figure out how to phone him? |
Heather Clay called shortly after I published this, and told me that someone
had already read it, and that Gard has been having email trouble at that
address.
Aren't we all! With all the SPAM, it is easy to have a mailbox
overflow, or to accidentally delete a worthwhile message. Email is now
unreliable, and if someone does not reply, the logical assumption these days
is that the message did not get through. At any rate, I guess we'll get
together on this project soon.
Heather also said that Heather Mattila, will be at the CHC meeting in
Winnipeg, in late January to present her results. Darn! I hope
to be in Mexico by then, but at the rate I'm going, I may very well show up in
Winnipeg. Brrrr.
Heather also wanted to reach the Southern Alberta Beekeepers to let
them know about an upcoming seminar in Medicine Hat. The seminar
covers how we can recover a good percentage of any money we spend on
research. I'm also needing up to date emails for all the Southern
Alberta guys. Please send me your current addresses, folks.
Innovators Network Breakfast Seminar
Date: Wednesday November 26, 2003
Time: 7:30 9:00 AM
Place: Java Bytes Internet Café - Winner of the 2003 New Business of the
Year Award 541A 3rd Street SE, Medicine Hat, Alberta
Cost: $10 (includes breakfast)
Topic: The Scientific Research and Experimental Development Tax Credit
Program (SR&ED)
Speakers: Dr. Douglas Clay, SR&ED Program, Calgary, CCRA Mr. Cal
Koskowich, Industrial Research Assistance Program (IRAP), Lethbridge, NRC
Mr. Larry Johnson, Meyers Norris Penny Medicine Hat
If your business is planning to develop new products or services you
should be aware of the substantial tax credit entitlement under the
Government of Canada’s SRED program. Expenses incurred in qualifying
research and development may earn up to a 35 percent tax credit provided
the investigative work meets CCRA’s definition of science research and
experimental development. You might be surprised at how broadly these
definitions are applied but you must obtain prior approval for any such
expenses and structure your project’s accounts accordingly.
Our speakers are experts in interpreting and applying the SRED
program. Please come to this breakfast seminar to learn more about the
SRED program and the service offered by CCRA and local accounting firms.
Come also to meet and network with fellow entrepreneurs, investors and
business service providers and to discover the friendly ambience of Java
Bytes Internet Café.
Please RSVP by Monday November 24 to
Maira Devin at Medicine Hat College
Phone 529 3874 Fax 504 3512 E-Mail
Heather Clay National Coordinator Canadian Honey
Council
Suite 236, 234-5149 Country Hills Blvd Calgary AB T3A 5K8
Tel 403-208-7141 Fax 403-547-4317
www.honeycouncil.ca
Note: The above email
address is actually the output of a script, to foil SPAMbots. Although this, and
other emails on this site are human-readable, they appear as a jumble of symbols to a
SPAMbot. Please do not put email addresses on websites un-munged, since SPAMbots
cruise the web, reading every page, looking for email address, They then SPAM us all.
Visit Obfuscate to use the script, if
you need to publish emails on a website.
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Well, Gard phoned me a few moments ago, and we had a good chat.
Hopefully we can all get together (maybe at Winnipeg?) and discuss how we can
get a supplemental feeding evaluation project underway. Seems Heather M.
is doing lots of advanced work already.
All we need now is about five beekeepers to kick in $5,000 each and
volunteer a few yards to study. That shouldn't be too hard. I can
think of at least ten of my buddies who wouldn't blink at that commitment.
After all, they'll make or save 100 times that amount over the next decade,
if the work pans out and proves what we should be doing, and what is a waste
of time and money. It shouldn't be too hard to prove that, given some
time, money and trained talent, some feeds to evaluate, and real commercial
situations to test them in.
Think of all the time and money we waste trying to keep our bees strong
enough to pollinate or make honey and all the money spent on replacement bees
every year. And, besides, we should be able to get some of that back
from the government.
My phone should start ringing any minute now... Call 403-546-2588.
I drove to Calgary to do a little looking around. I want to put in some gas heating
fireplaces and stoves, so I went looking. I visited Diamond Fireplaces, picked up a copy of
FrontPage 2003 at Future Shop, and drove home.
The temperatures were down around minus 25, and I noticed some vibration when I applied power at
110 KPH or so, so I drove the car into the basement to thaw overnight. I'm hoping it is snow
in the rims, or something like that, but I suspect a CV joint.
Today : Cloudy with sunny periods. 30 percent
chance of flurries this morning. High minus 17. / Tonight : Cloudy periods. 30
percent chance of flurries overnight. Low minus 26. / Normals for the period :
Low minus 11. High plus 1.
Saturday 22 November 2003
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Well, no phone calls, yet. ... and I now remember how I heard previously of heather M's
work. Doug McRory had sent it to me. and
I even published it here.
We stayed home today. With the temperature at minus 26 and a light breeze, and with Ellen
heating the studio to 20 degrees F -- she has houseplants in there -- we noticed that the furnace was not
making as much heat as expected. That area, an older part of our building, was a relatively unheated area
of our old schoolhouse in past years, and increases the load on our 1/4 million BTU Kirks Coal
stoker. Nonetheless, the furnace is very capable of doing the job, and I checked things out.
As suspected, I discovered that the fan belt has become dry
and glazed. It was slipping, and the fan was running slow. The belt is long enough that it does not overheat,
and can run like that for years.

Click on picture to enlargeKelley with
original drive.
(Super elevator shown to left)
These crude platter type friction drives are
dangerous, hard to set correctly, subject to running too slow, (and thus not removing the
honey completely) or too fast (resulting in broken frames).
These drives appear to have been
designed for the common driveshaft system which
was developed early in the industrial age and used in industrial shops well into
the 20th century.
Before the cheap distribution of
electricity became widespread in the early to mid-20th century - and for some time
after - there was usually just one waterwheel, horse driven wheel, steam engine, or
electric motor providing the power for all the machines in an entire shop. This
power was distributed through the shop by a single overhead constant speed shaft.
Individual machines in the shop were
driven from the shaft by flat belts dropping down from the shaft to each machine.
This concept became obsolete as small
electric motors became cheaply available, starting early in the last century, but
Kelley just added V pulleys and a small motor, and kept the same old clunky drive
mechanism.

Click on picture to enlarge
Here is the inexpensive, simple clutch drive
we have built and used to re-power Kelley 72s.
I've built a seven of these clutch drives over the years,
for less than CAD $200 ($150 US) each, and all worked flawlessly from the beginning,
and continue to do so today. (See
also Sunday July
22nd, 2001). |
Friction Drives for Extractors
In fact the JayZee BeeZee guy told us, when we had him up to speak at our
ABA convention one year, that
he used that principle to friction-drive extractors, and the belts lasted for years.
I tried it, and, sure enough, it worked well enough that I drove my Cowan 120 frame extractor
that way for several years, with no detectable belt deterioration, and a nice acceleration
curve to boot!
In the days before variable DC drives came onto the market, beekeepers devised many
ingenious friction drives, including the JayZee BeeZee belt trick, to get the same effect
that is now obtained using variable speed DC motors -- a few minutes of slowly speeding up to
throw out most of the honey, then, once the weight is off the combs, a few minutes of running
at top speed to finish drying out the combs. In some ways, these slipping
clutches or belts are superior, in that they sense the amount of honey in the reel; light
loads speed up more quickly than heavy loads, and acceleration is slower when thick honey is
slow leaving the combs than if all the honey flies out immediately.
Setting up a friction drive is not difficult or expensive. The trick is to have
the belt or clutch just loose enough that it slips for a few minutes, until the load lightens
and the mass of the reel gets up to speed. When the reel catches up to the proper
speed, usually 1/3 to 1/2 way through the time allotted for a load, the reel should
reach design speed, and slip should become minimal.
The reason slippage is necessary when using induction motors -- we use the common 1725
RPM 1/3, 1/2, or 3/4 HP capacitor-start variety -- is that, unlike DC motors, these AC motors
are single-speed and cannot run much less than their rated speed for long without
damage. When such motors are loaded so that they fall much below the rated speed
-- 1725 RPM -- they start to
draw excessive amperage, and either overheat, or stall. Thus, with these common,
inexpensive, rugged single-speed motors, some sort of slippage or other variable ratio
transmission system is necessary, so that the motor can run at the rated, efficient speed,
while the load comes up to speed smoothly, over time.
Note: The rated (design) operating speed of 1725 RPM for the most common motors is
actually a little less than the 'ideal', theoretical synchronized speed of 1800 RPM that is
theoretically the no-load RPM for such single-speed motors.
Switchable two-speed models such as 1140/1800 RPM motors are also available for
furnace fan use, and can be adapted for some jobs that do not require high starting torque.
3450 RPM motors are available, too, but require additional gearing down to be useful for
our purposes.
1/2 to 3/4 HP is very adequate for vertical shaft extracting, 3/4 to 1 HP is
necessary for the horizontal shaft units to overcome the inherent imbalance.
Capacitor start motors are preferred because they start faster and with more torque.
Most new extractor systems now use DC direct coupled drives these days, since DC drives
are compact and quiet, and can operate comfortably over the entire 0 to 250 RPM range that is
required for radial extractors in the 60" size range (72 to 100 frame, depending on spacing).
The downside of DC is that DC drives are expensive, and require a sophisticated, expensive
control to provide an appropriate acceleration curve. They are also subject to operator
tinkering and maladjustment.
If these fancy DC systems fail, the special replacement parts are expensive, and can
shut down extracting for days waiting for parts, while ordinary farm duty cap-start motors
and the other parts for friction drives are available everywhere. Most farms have a few
spare motors lying around, or one can be temporarily 'borrowed' from some non-essential
equipment. At first I used expensive industrial clutch material, but in my last four
conversion, I used Masonite. It's dirt cheap and available everywhere, and works just
fine.
Friction drives are usually of the 'set and forget' variety.
1.) Set the top speed (That's the speed the load will run after the slipping phase is
over, and the load comes up to full speed),
and
2.) Set the amount of slippage (to set how long the acceleration phase will be in
each cycle), and you are good for the season, or forever.
I had some drawings of how we built our friction drives for a few bucks, but they were
in Corel Draw and I don't have Corel on this machine. If you care, and really want to
se them, nag me a bit, and I may get around to posting them for you. Otherwise check
out the pictures on the right.
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Belt
dressing fixed the furnace fan problem for now, but it is time for a new one.
Today : Cloudy with sunny periods. 30 percent
chance of flurries this morning. High minus 17. /
Tonight : Cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of flurries overnight. Low minus
26. / ormals for the period : Low minus 11. High plus 1.
Sunday 23 November 2003
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We're back up to normal weather again. I notice that the weather guessers changed their
forecast for today by 9 degrees. Forecasting just isn't what it used to be around here.
The feds moved most of the weather people out of here and automated things. The quality is
not the same. I wonder if I need to start watching the aviation weather? Surely they
cannot be this far off on their predictions?
From a discussion on BEE-L. The previous poster has a long history of shooting
from the hip. Sometimes he is brilliant, and sometimes he is right out to lunch.
From: "allen dick"
To: <BEE-L@COMMUNITY.LSOFT.COM>
Subject: Re: [BEE-L] Hive robbing
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003
> 2) Mass-production approaches as used by larger beekeepers are simply
> NOT APPROPRIATE for a small, or even mid-sized beekeepers.
> Mass-production approaches, where hives are standardized merely
> for handling, movement, and the convenience of preventing hired
> hands from making mistakes, are clearly not intended to maximize
> colony strength or honey production
I hope that no one believes that. Good beekeeping is good beekeeping, and lots of guys I
know who do what Bob and I described get upwards of 300 pound crops, averaged over hundreds
or thousands of hives. Not every year, granted, but I know quite a few who have long-term
averages well over 200 pounds, doing things that way.
As for maximizing colony strength and/or honey production for their own sake, that is an
idealistic, rather than practical, goal.
Most beekeepers -- hobbyist, sideline and commercial -- understand that the most prudent
plan to follow is one that aims for maximum profit, accompanied by minimum risk, rather than
a simpleminded pursuit of maximum colony strength and/or maximum honey crop.
Additionally, a frugal beekeeper realizes that encouraging huge populations at the wrong
time of year can eat him out of house and home, and also cause a neighbourhood nuisance.
As always, the locality and it's seasonal flora must be considered, and bee populations
managed to fit in with the local bloom. Many smart beekeepers choose strains of bees that adjust
their populations to the time of year, reducing populations in fall, and building quickly in
spring. Others use excluders or plug the broods with feed after the crop comes off, to
restrict brood rearing, and reduce potential fall populations when no flow is expected.
Managing colonies, as described previously by Bob and myself, to avoid robbing, preserves
valuable colonies that might otherwise be overcome by robbing, and prevents robbing incidents
with the accompanying risk of stinging incidents that can panic or harm nearby humans and
livestock.
Granted, a sideliner can often improve a bit on what the commercial operator does, by
being more on time, and spending a bit more time with each hive, and but the principles of
good beekeeping are the same for 5 hives or 50,000.
Bob was not silly to state his opinion on how a prudent commercial beekeeper would manage,
and he was not wrong in his facts. Whether his observations were appropriate for the
situation that inspired the comments, no one knows. His comments seemed to be right on the
money, to me.
I know that Bob, in all his years, has seen lots of outfits that were not properly cared
for in the fall, and knows the inevitable consequences. I know I sure have, and this case
sure looked like one of those wrecks, to both of us.
> b) Consistency has nothing to do with excellence.
Now, this statement is false, and, actually, silly. Consistency is an integral part of
excellence. Without consistency there cannot be excellence.
> c) Bee colonies vary in strength.
This statement is true, but consistency should not to be confused with sameness or
mediocrity. Of course, there will always be some variation among living things.
One of the signs of an excellent beekeeper is the consistent suitability of his or her
colonies and equipment to the purpose at hand, and consistent management.
Commercial or hobbyist, consistent, knowledgeable and purposeful management is the mark of
excellence in beekeeping.
allen
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Hi Allen.
My name is Daniel, reading your diary here in Switzerland.
Great reading, saw your promotion for OpenOffice.org.
Congratulations! spreading the word about it.
pdf creation is so easy and word documents with fotos and all the stuff that are a 10mb
.doc become a 200 or 300 kByte OpenOfffice Document. that's cool...
btw, there seems to be an frontpage error in the web form feedback.
(Yup. I spent some time on that, and I think it is now fixed).
have a nice day.
greetings.
Daniel.
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Ellen and I went to Red Deer for the afternoon and got a fan belt, then drove to Ponoka to have
supper with Jean, Chris, and Mckenzie.
Today : Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind becoming west 20 km/h
late this morning. High zero. /
Tonight : Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of flurries overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h. Low
minus 6. /
Normals for the period : Low minus 11. High zero.
Monday 24 November 2003
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The
Forum is working again. Let's get some
discussion going. Gard Otis has written me several times now about the idea of doing some
serious nutrition studies using commercial beekeepers hives. I'll be covering that more soon.
I didn't hear back from him today.
I spent a lot of the day downstairs, cleaning up the shop. Years ago, I spent a lot of
time in my shop, but over the years, as I hired more people, I lost interest in the shop, partly
because I could never find anything there. I'd start a project, then get called away.
When I returned, things would be moved and I'd spend the free time I had for the job looking for
parts or supplies or small tools. Now that I have no staff -- Dennis is still sick and it looks as
if he will be for a while -- I'm encouraged to get back to some of my projects.
I also improved the info on friction drives written on Saturday the
22nd.
Today : Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind becoming west 20 km/h
late this morning. High zero. / Tonight : Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of flurries overnight.
Wind southwest 20 km/h. Low minus 6. / ormals for the period : Low minus 11. High zero.
Tuesday 25 November 2003
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One month until Christmas
Frank called this morning, and said that the Homeland security guys gave him a number, so now,
it's just the FDA. If they agree, he can ship patties to the USA.
In the afternoon, Ellen & I went to town in the one remaining one-ton
to pick up some styrofoam for packing paintings to send to the
Assinaboia Galley in Regina. When we
got home, there was some snow in the North drive, and I had to run back and forth a bit to get
through. In the process, there appeared a huge cloud of steam. I gather a heater hose
blew out. I'll have to check it tomorrow.
I have a lot of incoming material today (more tomorrow). This just came in
from a man I respect, and who has served Canadian beekeepers well. This message is long, and
detailed, but is worth your time. In the past, lots of things got swept under the rug (dirty
deeds, done dirt cheap?). Today such things still go on, but under the watchful eye of the
whole world, thanks to the Internet. Nobody wants a confrontation. Everyone wants to get along. In
the interest of mutual understanding, sometimes we have to air dirty laundry. Fresh air has a
purifying effect. The object is not to embarrass anyone. The object is to get past our
little cliques, and our self interest, and to get to being honest, so we can do the Right Thing.
I hope you turn off your affinities and tune into your own feelings...
I hope you can tough through all this, if not, just scroll down. We'll get to other
matters. Watch the colours change.
Editor's note -- in the interests of full disclosure,-- I grew
up in Ontario, and my father was the
president of the Sudbury (Ont.) Beekeepers Ass'n some many years ago. I still may keep bees
there on our family land, some day.
This just in, after I accidentally published my working copy of this
page.
I enjoy reading your site, especially lately since you have plenty of
border issues raised.
I just have a small beef, trying to read Rob Termeer's letter
(below) which has a wide margin and requires me to scroll back and forth is extremely
annoying and hard on the eyes. Is there something I can do to make it all fit on the
screen or is that strictly from your end.
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Sorry about that. I don't know what browser or screen resolution you use.
If you use 800x600 or 480x640, you'll need to use the Left
panel on?
Yes
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No
link at the top of each diary page, to turn off the left panel to get more useful material on
your screen. You might also want to set your computer to a higher screen resolution.
To change these settings in Windows, simply minimize all windows and right click on
the desktop. Select 'Properties', then the 'Settings' tab. Assuming your computer is
less than 6 years old, select 800X600 or 1024X768 (my favourite) by using the slider and
then pick a deeper colour depth. I use 32 bit depth, myself. You'll likely have to
restart the computer.
See this page for a comparison of
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By the way, I certainly have to agree with his comments. I'm amazed to
see so many self righteous beekeepers who support non progressive, protectionist approach
to the current and future supply and management of honeybees. They don't want to give
newcomers a chance to get a foothold in this business.
I published this info before I finished editing it. I got
called away in the middle of the job. Sorry for the mess. I'm in the process of
cleaning it up. (later... It is now whipped into better shape). |
| Hi Allen:
Thought you might be interested in the attached correspondence summary between Termeers'
Apiaries Ltd. (Rob Termeer) near Ottawa and the OBA
regarding border closure and 2003 hive losses, etc.
Rob attended the OBA convention to further his cause, and while a number found his points
interesting, only a few supported him so far. The OBA defeated his resolution which essentially
supported the
Kelowna protocol and efforts to open the border to queens by a count of 24 to 3. The
underlying reasoning was the threat of diseases (protocol notwithstanding) and dilution of
their breeding programs (again, protocol and current imports from NZ, Australia. and Hawaii
notwithstanding).
On the plus side, there was support for imported queens going to Alberta, just so long as
Ontario had "veto right" by requirement for provincial import permit superseding federal
permit.
The OBA also passed a resolution that prevents Ontario beekeepers from moving to New
Brunswick to pollinate blueberries, a big blow financially for at least one beekeeper I was
told. Maybe more details will come from Rob on exact wording, etc. or some of your other
sources.
Barrie.
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From: Rob Termeer
To: Barrie en Julie Termeer
Cc: Bill Termeer
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:03 PM
Subject: Pre convention letter
Hi guys:
I talked to you Barrie, but Bill, this is what I sent out last Saturday to OBA members. The
secretary sent out a notice to members with all these email addresses so I decided to let them
all see my article which the STING wouldn't publish. Update you next week when I get back from
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Dear Ontario Beekeepers: November 15/03
I am writing this to inform you all of some of my recent and past experiences with my
beekeeping business. I have written the OBA numerous times this past year and have been given
the run around to no end. I tried to have my views published in the STING last June but Henry
Hiemstra edited half of it out and told me to accept his cut version or forget it. He said
they will not consider any further submissions from me.
Without free speech there is no democracy. I will paste my article in further down so you
all can decide for yourselves as to the validity of my views.
Our association has initiated many good programs over the years but on the US border
issue they have been anything but fair in their perspective.
The OBA has made special effort to reinforce potential negative impacts from US imports.
Information from the OBA on this subject has been continually biased. Henry Hiemstra has
provided a perfect example in the October STING. Just read what started out as the CHC
REPORT but after the first paragraph it became Henry's Propaganda Push!
Quebec losses were a result of widespread Varroa resistance to Apistan and unfortunately
they did not have access to Coumaphos last year. Ontario is simply lucky that rVarroa
occurred mainly in border areas and a few isolated pockets because most of you could not
get coumaphos yet either. Quite a few large Ontario beekeepers did lose 25 to 75% of their
colonies.
Essentially, the OBA has been using exaggerated scare tactics to manipulate the
membership into supporting the anti-import policy of this province. They imply that imports
would somehow compromise the stock selection/breeding programs being done here. It would
simply allow us as individuals to make our own choice on bee supply and greatly increase
the security of our livelihoods.
On the other hand they have ignored the value of US stocks where breeding and selection
of stock is perhaps even more advanced than our own. After all, Russian stock in Ontario
came from the US. Also, US queen breeders have generations of experience which cannot be
matched by the newly formed group of breeders we have here.
Producing and maintaining quality lines of breeder queens is no simple task; what
happens if the funding runs out? The other big factor is climate. Raising quality queens by
May 1st to 15th is impossible in Ontario, yet necessary if one is to have productive splits.
Self sufficiency works to a degree, but at a significant cost to production -- especially when
high losses occur. Nucs fill part of the supply, but are limited in numbers and expensive,
and also can carry disease with the movement of equipment.
OMAF resources are stretched to the limit with so much time applied to stock selection
and various programs while Apistan® resistance was
spreading, as we knew it would, at great cost to those who could not get coumaphos in time
(good old 'due process' I'm told).
Until someone actually proves their stock can live without treatment, then our priority
must be to develop a backup alternative treatment which must be available before beekeepers
lose colonies again.
Formic acid has shown some promise against Varroa over the years, but, as we found out
last spring at the OBA commercial meeting, Miteaway (original) did not work as well as we
were led to believe. I have heard varying reports on the new MITE-AWAY-II. Haven't tried it
myself. There are a number of other potential methods: oxalic acid, sugar octanoate esters; this type of research needs priority attention.
Over the years beekeepers in certain areas have repeatedly suffered, while providing
information for the protection of others. As Henry also mentioned, for commercial
beekeepers, getting early imported queens is a smart way to make money; yet he suggests this
somehow jeopardizes our future. The hives/production/money I and others have lost, these
last few years in particular, is what is jeopardizing our future -- and the fact that
available bee supply sources are limited in quantity and/or quality.
To get the full benefit of imports this year I would have required packages also, and
that needs to be considered as well.
Just (being able to get) queens won't do it, when 325 (of our hives) survive but 700 are dead.
I suspect Henry is thinking of things such as small hive beetle-SHB, rAFB, etc in
regards to the future.
Lets quickly touch on these so-called risks:
Africanized Honey Bee (AHB). In
my view this has been greatly overblown, but it is the one item for which the general public
could be put at risks. That said, it is probably the simplest of all risks to control. Any
beekeeper can identify if a new split (queen) is aggressive and then requeen or kill the
hive. You can bet US breeders are doing everything possible to keep AHB out of their
outfits so the overall risk is negligible. Our climate provides some added security against AHB, and as far as I know, the climate pretty much eliminates any threat from the Small Hive Beetle.
Small Hive Beetle. A
migratory US beekeeper moves hives across the St. Lawrence River from me carrying SHB for
years yet I have never seen one.
Resistant AFB. This has been talked about since before
border closure and I believe Tylosin® will control it. I don't know why the OBA has been
unable to get this approved, assuming they are still trying. The transmission of FB through
live bees is also quite low. Not nearly as likely to spread FB as the nucs with combs we
are currently spreading around the province. What's left? Varroa resistance to coumaphos.
Varroa resistance to coumaphos.
This to me is our only serious concern with imports. It is also an immediate concern to
every Ontario beekeeper near the US border, since they are already at risk to exposure
through natural migration, just as we were to Apistan resistance before. This is why further
controls for Varroa must be the priority of our province. However, surely our public servants (OMAF/CFIA) can establish protocols and gather information to map out which
treatments are being used in any particular region of the US. Perhaps individual US bee
suppliers could provide a 5 year history of their treatment methods as a requirement to
export.
The point being, that the risks are manageable, and we have been denied the benefits
for far to long already. Any stock that shows value can be much more widely accessed
through the hands of US breeders. They can provide the queens by the 1,000's and early, so
that we can both improve our stock and maximize our honey production at the same time.
The CFIA and CHC and provincial associations met in October and have developed, and agreed
in principle, to a protocol under which US queen imports could happen this spring. Many of you
may not realize the costs that the import ban has had in Ontario, and to a greater degree in
other regions of Canada. The OBA has conveniently left out that side of the story. There must
be some potential politicians sitting on the board, to have so expertly manipulated the
information on this issue for so many years. Most of us are just beekeepers, but it's time we
speak up for fairness and objectivity. Please come to the convention and support those who
need imports.
I have been out of the loop for some years, and perhaps there are groups of you out there
working on this issue also. The convention is coming quickly, and we only have a few days
left. I would welcome any feedback and I'm wondering if anyone has put together a resolution
on this issue yet. I expect the board has one, but I hate to imagine how they have worded it.
For the rest, I will add my article and some correspondence I had with the OBA (Henry
Hiemstra).
I hope you find it interesting.
Rob Termeer
RR#1 Finch, Ontario K0C 1K0
| (From Henry, in blue)
Dear Rob, April 16/03
Thank you for your swarm of emails. It's also nice to
know that someone reads my ramblings in The Sting. Although I cannot bring your bees back I
can give you some opinions and have some question with regard to your comments. The OBA is a
democratic organization. How come you were not at the joint Canada/America Convention in
Niagara Falls to present your complaints? I didn't read your views on the border issue in The
Sting either. Has the OBA suppressed your freedom of speech?
(April 18/03...Rob's answer in black)
Yes the OBA is democratic; as we know all members have an equal vote whether they have 2
hives or 2,000 hives. Does that make sense? That may explain why the OBA board has no
restrictions for obtaining a voting membership. The less informed members can then be
bombarded with information supporting border closure with a definite and calculated absence
of pro-import information.
That vote then goes to CHC where our 75,000 hives gets an equal
vote to Alberta's 220,000 hives. I suppose you consider that to be fair also?
As for the
joint meeting, I was out of the province at the time to attend a family member's wedding. I
would have liked to have seen some speakers on the Agenda such as David Hackenburg (Florida
migratory), or Danny Weaver (Texas), or Jean Paradis (Alberta). It would be nice to see some
balance.
Freedom of speech is great but are you willing to listen? Thanks for pointing out to
me the option of expressing myself through THE STING. I will plan on doing this, if my letter
will be unedited.
How can you claim the OBA is forcing you to smuggle bees and break the law? You cannot
blame the OBA if YOU choose to break the law. That's your decision.
If the OBA would have had some timely policy to protect the frontline beekeepers by
requesting and pushing for McRory's department to implement a monitoring policy for Apistan
resistance prior to losses in suspect high risk areas during summer of 2000, we would have
known it was there prior to me reporting it in spring 2001-- with 500 of my 1200 hives dead.
Even then people tried to say it was tracheal mite at first -- like I didn't know what I was
talking about.
You knew resistant Varroa was inevitably going to show up but where was your
game plan? You are monitoring, now, since I told you resistance is here. You're welcome! There
would have been lots of mites for your resistance test prior to the big losses that
fall/winter. So Doug McRory assured me that coumaphos was ready to go and I would have it for
Spring 2002. Being good at managing my bees I planned to treat by April 1/02 .
Where's the
coumaphos? Should I have smuggled in coumaphos for the recommended treatment on time? As for
bee imports, smuggling has occurred on a large scale since 1987, because there has been an
insufficient bee supply within Canada, a clear weakness in our provincial and national
policies -- which the OBA continues to support.
How come you are the only one in Ontario pushing to have the border reopened? We're not
hearing from others voicing that desire. In spite of his heavy losses, Paul Montoux still does
not want the border open.
It takes guts to say anything about opening the border in this province, with the deluge of
anti-import propaganda.
As has been the case since 1987, my operation is on the border and is
exposed to mites, etc. before most others so naturally you will hear from me first. Parts of
southern Ontario are in a similar situation. As you have seen, what happens here at Termeers
Apiaries Ltd will surely occur in a year or 2 or 3 in other areas. This has been the history
with first the Tracheal mite, then Varroa, and now resistant Varroa. I have no doubt that
other commercial beekeepers will experience bee shortages as well. You are all surely
aware that Doug McRory has issued a strong recommendation for everyone to switch to coumaphos
immediately. Better a year late than never!
rVarroa is spreading rapidly, and any remaining
problems in the US will be here very soon. The value of border closure has substantially
declined while the negative impact of a short bee supply for Canadians has grown
significantly. I haven't spoken to Paul and he, like most others, has not voiced any opinion in
response to my 'swarm of emails' either.
How come, if northern Alberta has a choice between importing packages or wintering in
southern BC, they choose for wintering in southern BC?
Northern Alberta has wanted packages since 1987!!! They took their request to their
democratic commercial organization known as the ABA. The membership there showed a strong
majority in support of packages for the entire province several years ago. The entire
province has supported queen imports for at least 5 years now. Note that Manitoba and BC also
have voted to support importing mainland queens.
Currently, 35,000 colonies move to BC for
wintering. This is expected to rise to 50,000 in 2003, as it provides for easier wintering
conditions especially for those from the colder Peace River regions. (perhaps I should take
my bees to southern Ont. for the winter this fall.)
Alberta beekeepers favour management
options, they do not dictate one over another. So currently, some choose to import Australian
packages (available in limited supply with poor queens at high prices) while others move
their hives or whatever other option they might choose. Alberta beekeepers are progressive
and prefer to let the individual determine which management options suit their needs under
available markets conditions. Sounds like some parts of Canada still value the freedom of
choice this country was built on. (You said it! - ed)
How come others in your area did winter bees? Was that management?
Yes, my management failed to put in CheckMite+ when needed April 1, 2002, because I chose
not to smuggle it in (to have it) in time, but instead put my faith in the OBA and Doug McRory
-- who had
assured me 12 months earlier that I would have it.
Was it bad management to not put the
Coumaphos in my hives during a honey flow in late May/02, when they finally did become
available?
Was it bad management to follow the label that says remove strips 2 weeks before
honey flow when it was suggested I put them in during our early dandelion/raspberry flow with
supers going on and hives booming?
I was concerned for residues in honey from a serious
chemical which should not be used at that time. I did use a recommended formic treatment
which proved itself to be unreliable.
Was it my management that failed, or the management of
the OBA and Doug McRory's office that caused delays in accessing coumaphos for a known and
expected emergency?
Whose management concluded that tests for resistance in this area
conducted in 2001 were inconclusive in spite of my 40% loss and a clear and dangerous trend
supporting the existence of rVarroa?
How come others in other areas lost bees too, due to management?
You'll have to ask Paul, and the others about their management or lack thereof!
Are you saying
that none of these others were following any OBA programs?
The point is that in this age of
mites and resistance, we are all vulnerable to dramatic losses. A self sufficiency based IPM
program is very weak if it does not include adequate sources of replacement bees to meet
increasing demand. It is foolish to move forward without addressing this important option.
How come even the US is declining in colony numbers?
Yes, there has been a decline in US numbers, especially in the smaller and hobby sector.
The level of management and skills required has excluded many beekeepers just as has happened
in Canada in spite of our border closure, or perhaps because of it.
There are fewer beekeepers,
but they now run more hives per outfit. Alberta is dramatic in that way with many operations
slowly rebuilding or expanding to fill the gaps left by those that did not have the time to
adjust and simply went out of business because their source of packages was cut off by border
closure. That was a huge blow to the western beekeeping industry with colony numbers dropping
from about 200,000 to 130,000 but apparently of no concern to the OBA at the time, or even
now.
The restrictive border policy was, and is, a difficult barrier but that province did
everything possible under federal restrictions to help beekeepers survive. As a result they
now exceed pre-closure colony numbers --somewhat successful but roughly half the beekeepers
lost their livelihood. I was an OBA director back then, and was disgusted at the narrow-minded,
selfish view prevalent at the time in the OBA.
Back in the US, California's pollination
industry is meeting demand, queen and package production there is strong and the colonies are
full of bees. I suggest the OBA should buy a few tickets and send some delegates to
California to see for yourselves.
How come you don't mention the big losses in Florida this winter blamed on chemical
(Coumaphos - ed) resistance? Do you really want those mites? Remember if you live on the frontier you will face
the first bullets.
Florida is experiencing problems. They have an almost continuous brood cycle resulting in
quicker development of resistance. Florida hives move to Maine and New York every year to
pollinate blueberries etc., so they are our neighbours. We will get those mites whether we like
it or not and so will Quebec and the Maritimes. That is why we are very vulnerable and need to
have accessible replacement bee supplies.
If package operators (package suppliers - ed) have good bees, which proves
good management, then the bees they have for us will be healthy. If management is poor then
they won't have bees to sell. Pretty simple logic that even you Ontario guys should understand.
As for me being on the frontier, that word probably describes your locale better than mine,
which is a benefit for you. However, I am on the frontline and, if anything, the OBA should make
extra effort to consider the needs of those bearing the brunt, and (who are) providing knowledge and a
buffer for the rest of you.
Rob you were frank in your comments, and I hope you don't mind that I was too. I hope to see
you at the convention in London.
I wish you weren't so frank, because I had a hard time finding your comments amongst all the
questions. In spite of my effort to address what I consider to be a very serious issue, I have
been largely ignored with no significant feedback. AS for the convention, I will have to see if
the agenda has a fair balance of speakers with both sides of this issue presented. If you like,
I will line up a couple for you. I can write but unfortunately I am not so skilled at public
speaking.
Regards,
Henry
Take care,
Rob Termeer,
RR#1 Finch, Ontario K0C 1K0 |
| Dear Rob: June 23/03
As you know, we edit all letters as to length, accuracy and good taste.
We have left in your problem and your so called solution. Your choice is to accept it as is
or not. We will not consider another version of yours at a later date. If we do not hear from
you by Tuesday, June 24, then it will go in as edited.
Thank you.
Henry
|
(We
-- as you know -- here at HoneyBeeWorld, however, have lots of space -- and a verrryy tolerant editorial policy - ed)
| US Border Issue
Greetings Fellow Beekeepers
(The blue part is what was left.)
(I'm not sure whether the blue part was omitted, or the only part printed. No
matter. Here, on this fearless site, you can see it all. If you want to comment,
feel free to
Write me or - ed. )
My name is Rob Termeer and I run Termeers Apiaries Ltd, traditionally running 1200 hives. I
am a second generation beekeeper as are my 2 brothers who each operate hives in Alberta.
Together we run about 6,000 colonies so we have faced a variety of beekeeping issues. I am
located in the Cornwall area of eastern Ontario and my outfit borders the state of New York.
There is a great deal of concern in the industry regarding the continuation of our
regulation banning US mainland imports of queens and packages. I would like to inform the
industry of my experiences in Ontario since US border closure in 1987 and my views on the
overall effect this has had on Canadian beekeeping.
The importing of US bees was first affected by the discovery of the Honeybee Tracheal Mite-HTM
in the US in 1984, and Varroa a couple of years later. The first reaction was the development
of an import protocol based on sampling for HTM and then "border closure" in 1987 once Varroa
appeared.
The bees/mites and other pests don't obey border regulations and as such we soon found HTM
in the Cornwall, Ontario area and other border areas and provinces. At the same time 1,000's of
western hives were left empty with Alberta down from 200,000 hives to just 130,000, due to the
US package supply cut off. This was the single most major and costly blow to hit the
industry/individuals that never received its due recognition.
Then depopulation of HTM infested hives was carried out based on positive test results which
was worse than the mite itself, and did not stop the spread. Further to this, quarantine
zones were established, restricting the movement of bees from these HTM positive areas.
These zones did make sense and offered a flexibility that could be workable to the benefit of
most beekeepers' needs. This could have provided a fair balance for all and perhaps still can.
If infested areas had been allowed to continue importing, plus other zones where bee supply
was deemed economically crucial to maintaining hive numbers (package bee operations), then
areas without the mites could have been protected while those who were infested would still
have had an economical and good quality supply of bees available.
Lets not forget that many US breeders are big business and they have tremendous resources
geared towards research, breeding and maintaining healthy bee stocks. They want to stay in
business as well. I'm sure a fair set of protocols and zones for importing could be established
if we all really tried to be reasonable. I had been buying US California queens of
Carniolan stock, for the last 6 years before border closure, which appear from my experience to
be HTM resistant. I had no significant increase in annual losses from this mite, (except the
ones that were depopulated) and I used only grease patties for control for 12 years until I had
to use Formic Acid in an attempt to control rVarroa in 2001/02 but I am getting ahead of
myself. However, those beekeepers with HTM-susceptible stock, and losses, could no longer
access the valuable resources of US Queen and package producers.
Varroa from New York showed up in my bees in 1992. As we proceed
to the year 2000, the inevitable Apistan Resistant Varroa has entered Canada.
We knew rVarroa was expected, but no one was monitoring for the
resistance even though it is stated to be the number one risk in the CFIA Risk Assessment
Report. So in spring 2001, I lost 500 of 1200 colonies with a wave of rVarroa almost
totally wiping out 8 or 9 yards in my southern border area. Everything was being treated with
Apistan.
The north yards were fine, with a bit of a mix in the middle area. I
reported my losses from rVarroa to the Ontario Provincial Apiary Specialist. I was given
assurance that Coumaphos was ready to go once rVarroa showed up. So, my huge bee losses, and
some others in this area were the first indication of Ontario rVarroa.
All of a sudden the Inspection Department had to learn how to do
resistance testing to provide the CFIA (PMRA actually) with supporting data. This led to a set
of delays with further sampling required in spring 2002. rVarroa was confirmed but
further bureaucratic delays pushed the availability of Coumaphos to May 17/02.
With supers going on to prevent swarms going out, and my good hives
usually producing 30 to 40 lbs of dandelion and raspberry honey at this time, I could not risk
contaminating my honey with residues -- although the Ontario Bee Inspection Department
proceeded to treat other hives in the area with coumaphos at this time.
I used multiple formic acid treatments, (a recommended control), both
spring 2001 and 2002 as well as Apistan both falls since once again coumaphos was delayed and
came to late in September of 2002. For me, my bees were so badly infested with rVarroa it
no longer mattered. The controls I used were inadequate. The resulting devastation left me with
760 dead out of 1100 this spring. The means to maintain my resistant colonies existed,
but bureaucratic delays -- and apparently no understanding of the wording "EMERGENCY PERMIT" --
kept it out of my hands at the required time.
I would suggest that everyone use Coumaphos/Checkmite once this year,
and again next year while it is available. Last I heard the permit is only renewable 1 more
year unless a full registration proceeds. Another priority!
Bee breeding programs and IPM methods for mite control are being
pursued, which are positive goals for the long run. Presently the bottom line is that we
require chemical mite controls for commercial beekeepers to survive, and an adequate/cost
effective bee supply when losses do occur. Today we are facing a crisis of economical
consequences similar to that of the initial impact border closure had on the industry.
There are many cases of extremely high losses all across Canada this spring, and many will
suffer from the lack of bee supply sources, and the resulting lost production at a time of
peaking wholesale prices. Why has this cost never been considered in any reports?
CAPA papers, in the past, supporting border closure, refer only to the few extra dollars in
cost per hive for beekeepers to apply treatments, with no reference to the 100's of dollars per
hive of lost production income where losses have occurred.
We must recognize the impact of our policies and strive to correct our mistakes.
Nobody has mentioned anything about compensation for those on the
frontlines so give us the options needed to get back into production. I urge all
beekeepers to contact one of their Provincial Directors or their Prov. and Fed. Ag Ministers or
the CHC or all of the above.
We must insists that they be fair to all by getting a workable framework
developed to provide access to mainland US queens and bees to meet the needs of the whole
industry and quickly.
Another avenue would be to support the new Canadian Commercial Honey
Producers Association.
Many feel the present organizations have failed to deal with this situation objectively or with
fair representation. I was an OBA director at the time of border closure, and was the only one
to vote against it.
My Dad (Evert Termeer) and I, as well as other beekeepers across Canada went to great effort
to present the negative consequences of closure. The majority voted for the prohibition of bee
imports however, and this was largely to buy time while the industry learned more about the
mites and control methods and selective breeding programs.
Why are we still buying time sixteen years later? We have a mature experienced industry with
good management programs and continuous adaptations being developed here and in the US.
Frontline beekeepers and others who are unfortunate or learning provide new data through the
losses of their hives and are acting as a buffer and indicator for the rest. They are
having their businesses jeopardized by being denied the ability to restock hives quickly and
economically.
The directors of the Provincial Associations and the CHC have a responsibility to present
all the information as objectively as possible to their members. Those of us who have been
directors know that we are privy to information that never reaches the membership, but we are
expected to pass on a fair balance of relevant information.
Another point that needs to be addressed is this CFIA Risk Assessment on US mainland
imports. Considering the importance of the issue it seems a lot of us expect to see a little
more substance to justify the conclusions reached by that committee. There must also be some
balance in this assessment with consideration given to the impact of empty hives in Canada.
CAPA's present suggested set of protocols for imports given to the CFIA are not practical and
would essentially block imports. This document can be found through links at
the CHC website.
We need something workable! In conclusion, we cannot fairly assess
the negative risks and associated costs of allowing mainland imports if we do not objectively
assess the lost production income of empty hives and the lag time and costs incurred to restock
under current conditions. Also, we are being denied valuable US bee stocks which can be made
available early, and in huge numbers compared to the resources within Canada.
I could continue, but I hope this has broadened the perspective of
all, and especially those of you who did not realize how our policies are jeopardizing the
ability of myself and many others to stay in business, as well as acknowledge all those who
have all ready gone out of business.
I would be glad to receive comments and would like to build a list of
import supporters, and those who are neutral, if you care to submit your name and province to
(see note).
Some of our organizations claim they are not hearing support for this viewpoint so lets force
them to be responsible for their decisions and to acknowledge the crisis they have created in a
portion of the industry.
Sincerely,
Rob Termeer,
RR#1 Finch, Ontario K0C 1K0
| I thank all of you who took the time to read this far. With decisions about to
be made, it would still be a good time to express your support or objection as
suggested above and of course at the convention.
Trying to keep the border closed prevents those who want bees from getting them, creates
friction in the industry, and satisfies only some beekeepers. Opening the border allows all
beekeepers to make their own choices in management techniques, and decide themselves what is
best for their particular needs.
Take care,
Rob T.
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Wednesday 26 November 2003
I'm retired now, and days or
weeks may pass between beekeeping articles I recommend visiting pages
from previous years.
One
Year ago | Two years ago
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Forum | Sale |
Write me
I got caught up with this site, then went to Calgary to look at gas heating appliances.
Some of the material farther up this page has been improved.
| I have your copy of Dewey's book and I'll send it back to you next week (I'm in the
middle of a move). As for the SRED credits that Doug will be talking about in Medicine Hat,
here is a good layman's rundown on the workings of this program (from a site for Engineers
wanting to start up a high-tech business):
http://www.sfu.ca/~mvolker/biz/sred.htm
When I was in London recently I had a wonderful meeting with Max Watkins of Vita.
Attached are some pictures of the AFB/EFB test kits he gave me to try. It is a very simple
test and I was able to get the correct result of two stripes on the display window after
dropping a suspension of scale. I am interested in seeing if the kit is sensitive enough to
detect 'worrisome' levels of spores on a sample of adult bees, which is currently unknown
since the kits were designed to provide diagnostics on a diseased larvae (which has far more
spores than an adult bee sample from an infect colony would) As I understand, these kits
will be available in the US next season.
On another front, we are pretty sure that there are no loss in P. l.larvae spore viability
after bees have been preserved in 70% ethanol. I know you were wondering about this, as have
some of the provincial apiarists, because it opens up the possibility of yielding information
on nosema, tracheal mites, varroa AND AFB from the same sample. By the time Winnipeg rolls
around we should have plenty of new adult bee sampling data. Are you going to drag your ol'
bones to the icy city this year?
When I was in Greece I visited a big packing plant and noticed a line which packed into a
tetra-pack-type container. The manufacturer of the line is:
http://www.gualapack.com/
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borage |
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phacelia |
Also attached are some pictures of some borage and phacelia fields we planted this last
year. The borage was generously donated by the van den Berg's in Silver Valley. We tried
some different seeding rates and some plots with under-seeded sweet clover. The phacelia
plots 'hummed' with bees and we trapped plenty of purple pollen in our pollen traps. On
some of the hotter days in September we had quite a bit of nectar being brought in. We
harvested the plots and are hoping to clean it when things get slow... which they are not now
and my late lunch break is over.
Send my greetings to Ellen,
Adony
Adony Melathopoulos, M.P.M.
Apiculture Biotechnician / Biotechnicien en Apiculture
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There's a meeting coming up Monday in Edmonton. I should have published the
announcement here, but assumed the ABA would have it on their site. They did not! They
are still featuring the (now long-past) upcoming convention. I did not have a copy of the
info for this meeting until Medhat sent me one just now.
I must confess that I knew about this meeting, but had planned to let it slide. It's about
the future, and I'm retired,; I figure the future belongs to others. Anyhow, Medhat called,
and talked me into going, so I'll be there. Apparently he has 20 Alberta government people
coming to learn more about beekeepers and beekeeping, so we had better not let him down. The
more of us there, and the more ideas we can offer, the better.
I'll go the night before and stay over, to be there on time for the meeting. At this time
of year we never know if the roads will be blocked or slippery early in the morning, or if there
will be fog. It's always worth going early, anyhow, since there are always beekeepers around
the day before and lots of chatter in the bar in the evening. That's half the fun, and often
where we learn more than in the meetings. Phone: (780) 484-6000, 1-800-661-4879 or fax to
(780) 489-2800 to reserve. I'll see you there!
I hear that the Canadian Commercial Honey Producers Association is meeting the next day at the
same hotel, the Executive Royal Inn 10010 – 178 Street Edmonton. Frankly, I'd given the CCHPA
up for dead, since their web site at http://www.cchpa.ca/
doesn't seem to respond, but I guess we'll find out Tuesday. I hope they are alive and
kicking. We sure need an organization to represent the serious present and future commercial
beekeepers in Canada, both in Ottawa, and at the CHC. The current arrangement is still not
working, and probably never will. Small thinkers, fear mongers, zealots and their blind
followers will always dominate, the way CHC is currently structured. Maybe things will
change with restructuring -- if it happens, but I don't think that we can count on it. An
association that is devoted to serving the commercial aspects of beekeeping -- as opposed to
theoretical and hypothetical issues -- is very much needed.
I cleaned up the shop in the afternoon, and Meijers came for supper and the CCHPA came up in
conversation, and we discussed its chances of becoming a force in the industry since any new
organization has the very real problem of gaining
- Sufficient membership for credibility with government and industry
- Sufficient financing to operate.
- The experienced staff and/or volunteers to carry on business
There's the catch-22. Without enlisting a large enough membership to represent a large majority
of Canadian commercial beekeepers, the new group cannot be effective, or gain recognition by the
government bodies. Without being able to engage government in dialogue, and without being
able to achieve influence, it faces an uphill battle to add new members -- or even retain the
current ones. With a small membership to share costs, the membership fee must be high compared to
the service rendered. With a high membership fee, recruitment is difficult. With a
small budget, little can be accomplished and no staff can be retained.
We faced this problem in Alberta years ago. We were a small organization, with
limited membership, and volunteer staff. We were faced with what looked like a chasm
between where we were and where we wanted to be. We decided to jump. First,
rather than raise fees, we dropped the membership price to a point where no one could
use cost as an excuse not to join, and at the same time initiated a regular newsletter
that was an incentive to belong and gave tangible membership value, even to the
most casual beekeepers.
The price of basic membership barely covered the cost of the newsletter, but, because
everyone subscribed, we could claim to represent virtually everyone. At the time, I
suggested we give away memberships if necessary, to be sure to be all-inclusive, and as it
worked out, the newsletter is a profit centre on its own.
(If BeeNews were better managed, it would actually make a fair bit of money, but it
has always been a private fiefdom of the ABA staff, and fiercely defended from
improvement).
CHC has taken a page out of Alberta's book and produced a world class magazine (and
website) that makes even CHC's detractors begrudgingly pay the price of membership.
Clever.
This action helped solve the money problem. Although in the past, the association
had detractors, under the new inclusive policy, the detractors became part of the
organization. Because the ABA represented virtually all Alberta beekeepers, the
provincial government helped with funding when asked, and we were able to hire a full time
staff member.
Part of the new policy was to listen patiently -- sometimes the meetings were rather
long and loud -- to those who differed with association policy, and to try to work out
win-win solutions. To our credit, I think we did, and the proof is that there is nobody
-- that I know of -- who goes around saying that the ABA does not try to help them achieve
their goals. (If there is anyone like that, the ABA needs and welcomes their input,
member or not, and will stretch to accommodate their perspective).
As part of the new strategy, the association also set up a two-tier membership:
1.) the basic one for those who had no strong interest in politics and who were happy to
follow, and 2.) the voting membership, for those who wanted to drive the ABA agenda.
While the basic fee was very low, the fee for the voting membership was set at several
hundred dollars, and helped finance the activities that interested the voting membership --
the office, the lobbying, and such. For those who wanted to have an even higher fee,
the hundred dollar club was set up, and some members compete to see if they can give more
than their buddies. Some also donate additional money for special projects, like the
CAP program (now part of the regular budget).
At any rate this is an example of how an organization can gain strong industry support.
Here are some of the ideas that have made the ABA a strong and well-respected organization in
recent years. Maybe they can work elsewhere.
- Encourage membership by all interested industry participants by
- Keeping cost down, or even providing free membership
- Providing indisputable and irresistible value
- Being inclusive and avoiding cliques.
- Provide a forum for discussing conflicts. Demonstrate respect, patience,
tolerance, and co-operation
- Make sure that meetings are well and patiently chaired, and that discussion is not
rushed. Let everyone speak, and sometime relax the rules to make sure that the
matter is fully talked out before calling for a vote.
- Make sure votes are properly conducted, that only those qualified
vote.
- Let anyone speak, but be certain that secret ballot (with scrutineers) is used for
highly political votes, particularly where some members may fear retaliation from others
based on their vote.
Nothing wrecks an organization like badly chaired meetings and informal votes on
contentious matters. I've seen lots of disastrously questionable counts where
'show of hands' is used. Never refuse a request for secret ballot. It is
far better to find out what the members really think at the meeting than afterwards.
- Don't assume support for board projects. Take direction from the membership
rather than attempting manipulation.
- Respect the needs of minorities and place them on a par with the needs of the
majority.
- Avoid actions or policies that are repressive to some members, if at all possible.
Try to spread costs and mitigate effects of policies.
- Find commonalities and use these as focal points for deciding on action
- Bring in as much outside expertise as possible and examine 'off the wall'
proposals for clues.
- Stick to hard fact and avoid hypothetical arguments.
- Avoid ad hominum arguments, strawman tactics, and personality cults.
- Work hard to understand all points of view and to accommodate as wide a range of
needs as possible by negotiating compromises and looking hard for win-win situations.
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What I am saying is that I suspect that CCHPA has a membership problem -- a problem in achieving
critical mass -- and I suggest that the solution is to have a two-level structure. Maybe the
CCHPA should offer:
- A free or $20 membership to anyone who declares ownership of more than, say 600 hives, or can
declare that substantially all his/her income comes from beekeeping, and
- A voting membership, costing the present $300 for those who wish to support the organization
financially and to determine its agenda.
That way the association could gain a large membership, and the associated credibility.
Additionally, the organization needs to get its website running and current. Whether the
CCHPA should join honey council, or go it on its own, I really do not know, but if it can achieve
80% or more participation by commercial beekeepers in Canada, it will become a force to be reckoned
with. Of course, to achieve that size, CCHPA must be inclusive. To be more than a splinter
group, or industry faction, CCHPA will have to encompass and deal with the full spectrum of
views that are held by Canadian commercial beekeepers.
Will CCHPA then be nothing more than another version of the current CHC? I doubt it.
By virtue of the fact that CCHPA will have an entry threshold, CCHPA will far more truly represent
the actual bee industry in Canada, and supplant the conglomeration of idealistic hobbyists,
sideliners and advisors that CHC seems to be at present.
As an exclusively professional organization, CCHPA could then gain credibility as the voice of
the industry and give the real commercial beekeepers in Canada a voice for a change.
But CCHPA has to do more than meet occasionally; it is time for CCHPA to do, or die.
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Looking to the Future
A Visioning Session for the Beekeeping Industry of Alberta
December
1, 2003: Starting 8:30 AM
Registration
fees: $40, Lunch included.
At the
Executive Royal Inn 10010 – 178 Street
Edmonton
Phone: (780) 484-6000 1-800-661-4879 Fax:
(780) 489-2800
http://www.mallnetglobal.com/royalinn/edmonton/
Presented by: Marlene Abrams and Medhat Nasr
Ag-Entrepreneur Division and Crop Diversification Division, AAFRD, Edmonton
Development
of strategic plan will allow the association to determine where it
wants to be in the future (the purpose, goals, mission), World
Renowned Speakers will give talks about the global status of the
beekeeping industry and the future. Discussion session will follow to
discuss perspectives and opportunities of Alberta beekeeping in the
future. The generated ideas will help the ABA executive to develop
their strategic plan. Please
attend this session. Your thoughts, ideas, experiences
and contributions will be gratefully appreciated.
“The
future is not some place we are going to, but one we are creating.
The paths are not to be found, but made, and the activity of making
them changes both the maker and the destination”
--- John
Schnarr ---
To
assist the Alberta Beekeepers Association to deal with the future,
the issues and uncertainties of the beekeeping industry, the
executive will embark on developing a strategic plan in January of
2004. The plan will allow the association to determine where it
wants to be in the future (the purpose, goals, mission), how
they will know when they get there, and how they will get there. The
plan will guide operations/actions and critical decisions making as
the association progress to where it wants to be. This plan will
address building infrastructure, business framework and foundation to
strengthen the industry in terms of training, succession, and
management for bright future for the beekeeping industry.
In
setting the stage for the development of the strategic plan, ABA has
organized a session on December 1, 2003 at the Executive
Royal Inn 10010 – 178 Street Edmonton,
to bring together Association members and industry stakeholders to
look at the future of the beekeeping industry. The morning will be
spent listening to some thought provoking speakers share their vision
of the future of the beekeeping industry for the next five years and
beyond. Bruce Boynton CEO of the American National Honey Board, will
focus on “The World Market: Perspectives and Potentials”,
Dr. Tom Sanford from the University of Florida, will focus on
“Beekeeping in the Future: Challenges and Economics” and
Dr. Ron Clarke and Don Root (Alberta Agriculture) will speak on “The
Role of Food Safety in the Future and Lessons Learned from the BSE
(Mad Cow Disease)”.
The
afternoon will be an opportunity for stakeholders to discuss their
perspectives of what the beekeeping industry might look in the
future, opportunities that the industry needs to take advantage of to
achieve success and what are the issues standing in the way of
success. The ideas generated from this meeting will help the ABA
executive develop their strategic plan.
Please
attend this session. Your thoughts, ideas, experiences
and contributions would be gratefully appreciated.
Biography
of the speakers:
Mr.
Bruce Boynton: Mr. Boynton is the Chief
Executive Officer (CEO) of the American National Honey Board. He
earned the Certified Association Executive designation in 2002 from
the American Society of Executives, and he serves on the board of
directors of the Colorado Society of Association Executives.
He has 15 years experience with
the National Honey Board. His background is primarily in finance and
administration, but he has also been a teacher and has taught
business and accounting classes at the local community college.
Under his directions, the National Honey Board conducts research,
advertising and promotions to help maintain and expand domestic and
foreign markets for honey. The Board’s work also is designed to
lift the awareness and use of honey by consumers, the foodservice
industry and food manufacturers. When not working for the National
Honey Board, Bruce enjoys biking, photography, and landscaping
Dr. Malcolm (Tom) Sanford: Dr.
Sanford is a Retired Extension Entomologist and Professor Emeritus,
Department of Entomology & Nematology, University of Florida. Dr.
Sanford is world renowned apiculturist who is bringing the beekeeping
to the digital age. He is the recipient of Florida Entomological
Society Extension Award in 1990, the Apiary Inspectors Service Award
in 1997, and the American Association of Professional Apiculturists
Award for Excellence in Extension in 1998. He is the publisher of the APIS Newsletter for eighteen years, the longest running
newsletter of its kind in the U.S.A. and recognized worldwide as a
leader in its field. He authored a variety of papers and fact
sheets on different issues related to honey bee management and
profitability. Frequently invited to international conferences and as
a beekeeping consultant to the Caribbean, Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay,
Brazil, Spain, Ecuador, Canada, Antigua, Egypt, Chile, and France.
Dr.
Ron Clarke: Dr.
Clarke is Section Head at Agr-Food Systems Branch, Food Safety,
Alberta Agriculture, Food and Rural Development. He has expertise in
beef, horse, swine, and food epidemiology, and surveillance. Ron's
work includes design and implementation of disease surveillance
projects. Ron also assists with communication efforts directed toward
veterinarians and the livestock industry. Ron has been very involved
with the food animal industry through his entire professional life,
both as a veterinarian and one who offers support through writing and
an ongoing exchange of ideas
Mr.
Don Noot: Mr.
Noot is Head of Chemistry Section, Agri-Food Laboratories Branch,
Food Safety Division, AAFRD. He has a Bachelor's degree in
Analytical Chemistry and a Master's degree in Environmental Science.
Don has extensive experience with analysis for trace organic
compounds, particularly using mass spectrometry as an analytical
tool. The primary focus of the Chemistry Section, Agri-Food Labs
Branch is the determination of veterinary drug residues in various
agriculture and food products to promote safe food and market access.
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Agenda
8:30
Welcome and Opening Remarks Bob Ballard
8:50
Alberta Agriculture and the Beekeeping Industry Stan Blade
9:00 Mr. Bruce Boynton – CEO of the American
National Honey Board – Honey World Market Perspectives and Potentials
9:40 Dr. Malcolm Sanford – University of Florida –
Beekeeping in the Future: Challenges and Economics
10:20
Break
10:35
Dr. Ron Clarke & Mr. Don Noot – AAFRD- Food Safety in the Future and lessons learned from BSC
11:05
Questions for the Panel Bob Ballard
11:30
Preparing for the Rest of the Day Marlene Abrams
12:00
Lunch
1:00
Developing a Vision - Small group discussions
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Barriers
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Challenges
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Opportunities
3:15
Discussion Highlights Marlene Abrams
3:45
Closing Remarks Bob Ballard
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temperature rising overnight. / Normals for the period : Low minus 12. High minus 1.
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Here is an update on the exact wording of OBA defeated resolution. Makes you wonder why
they bothered coming to Kelowna if the work there carries no weight in their province.
Barrie.
| ----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Termeer To: Barrie en Julie Termeer
Cc: Bill Termeer
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:45 AM
Subject: Resolution
Hi Guys:
"Whereas the CFIA, CHC and all provinces have established a federal set of
scientific based import protocols for US queens agreed to in principle by all above
parties which minimizes the risks of transferring disease or pests or Africanized
Honeybee genetics, and whereas US researchers and queen producers have also been
selecting and developing mite resistant stock, and whereas Ontario beekeepers could
benefit by having early spring access to queens from US suppliers,
"Therefore be it resolved that the OBA work with the CFIA and other involved
parties and pursue the steps necessary to provide Ontario beekeepers the option of
importing mainland US queens as soon as possible under the above national protocols.
Submitted by Rob Termeer Seconded by Charlie Parker
I think the vote was 24 against, and 3 in favour. I really can't recall any
good arguments against this resolution. Just the same old rhetoric that we don't
want to import US problems.
One new angle that has come to mind has to do with whether or not the concept of a
quorum would apply to the OBA convention. Would a minimum (half plus 1) number of
voting members need to be present to validate the voting on resolutions? I will
have to inquire if this is relevant. I searched through the Canada Gazette site
and could not find anything new on queen imports. I guess the CFIA is still
working on a final version.
Good luck to us all,
Rob T. |
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As I drive through Ontario, I see large tracts of land that appear to me to be prime bee
pasture, yet I see nary a hive, and I wonder if the difference between the two regions is a
difference in imagination, example, history, and confidence.
Half a century ago, increasingly intensive farming in Ontario reduced the value of much of the best bee
pasture, and many of the best young beekeepers from Ontario traveled to the West, in search of
the huge crops that could be made on the frontier. Many ended up in the Northern prairies, where new land was being broken,
and fireweed and clover bloomed profusely in the slash, and where summer days were long and
sunny.
In the unregulated frontier climate of early Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, these adventurous
young beekeepers flourished and built an industry based on taking chances and thinking big.
Compared to Eastern Canada, farms were huge -- quarter sections vs. small parcels. Western
farms produced crops for export to distant markets, rather than local consumption, and beekeepers
learned to work on a large scale and produce for export as well. There was no large nearby
population to tempt them with retail sales, and they concentrated on running lots
of hives and producing bulk honey for export. They learned from the Americans who came up
to exploit the vast expanses of clover and built big outfits, trained one another's kids, and
shared their techniques. Gerry Paradis was the first to hit 1,000,000 pounds, at his Falher, Alberta location
in the early seventies. Although the Westerners did compete for bee locations, they did not
compete much for retail markets. There were none nearby. That fact probably led to
closer collaboration and greater industry solidarity.
Meantime, back in Ontario, things did not change much. The old ways continued, with
small operations, antiquated buildings and equipment and traditional thinking. The
beekeeping advances that swept the west and made beekeeping an important industry there did not,
for some reason, catch on in Ontario. In spite of ample opportunity, the old ways seemed
adequate.
The Alberta countryside is no longer wild, and the days of huge Alberta crops are now gone.
Intensive agriculture and monoculture are everywhere. Even ditches are sprayed for weeds.
Nonetheless, although many regions of Alberta now yield similar or smaller crops compared
to some Ontario regions, a tradition and example of big beekeeping continues in the West, but is
largely absent -- AFAIK -- in Ontario.
Ontario is a huge province, with ample moisture and a lot of potential pasture, a long
history of beekeeping, yet only one third the hives of Alberta.
Strange. Should Ontario's thinking control Canadian beekeeping policy?
Rob's email makes me wonder about the voting structure of the Ontario association. Is the
OBA basically a hobbyist/sideliner group? Or does it represent the commercial beekeeping
interests of the province? What percentage of the members voting are actually making a good,
full-time living by their beekeeping? Why are there so few large commercial
participants?
I'm betting most are sideliners, or have other pursuits to provide income. I am guessing
that because I have observed, over the years, that successful commercial beekeepers don't get
successful by operating out of fear, nor do they vote to limit their options, or vote to limit
their own growth and the growth of their industry. Successful commercial beekeepers don't
make decisions based on sentiment or romantic ideas of self-sufficiency. That's what small
operators do, and that, more than anything, keeps them small.
Assuming I am correct, then, if the OBA does not represent the commercial beekeeping industry of
that province, and yet has full representation at CHC, does that make CHC less credible?
Should sideliners and hobbyists make or participate in making policy for the commercial beekeeping
industry Canada-wide? What does that say of CHC. Is CHC then a sideliner/hobby
organization?
This is just musing. Maybe someone will fill me in.
Today : Cloudy with sunny
periods. Wind southwest 20 km/h increasing to 40 gusting to 60 late this morning. High plus 4. /
Tonight : Cloudy periods. Clearing near midnight. Wind southwest 40 km/h gusting to 60 becoming
northwest 30 this evening. Low minus 7. /
Normals for the period : Low minus 12. High zero.
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I
spent the morning studying various options for upgrading our heating system, (see also
here) and made up the
following chart, using OpenOffice.org. I reproduce it here in case others are interested...
Click on the thumbnail to compare fuels (Alberta prices). I suppose I could have shown a
propane at higher efficiencies, since it can get as clean and efficient as natural gas, and I show
wood at 45%, when some of the new wood stoves get
up to about 75%.
The December BeeNews arrived, and I
sat down to see what's up. The ink is green this issue. I suppose that the idea is to make it
look Christmasy, but it just makes it hard to read, and probably hard to photocopy. At
one time Alberta had the best newsletter in Canada, but pretty well, everyone else has caught up
and passed us. The only thing that we have going for us is the monthly schedule, but I'm wondering if there
is any justification for that, seeing as many issues lack worthwhile content. The main thing
of interest in each issue is the ads, which we all read faithfully, every issue. I suppose
the rag is worth getting, just for the ads, but I think it is time to get a committee working on
jazzing it up, or cut it back to 6 issues a year, use better material, and make those 6 issues
worth reading.
In the BeeNews (once I put on my glasses so I could read the green ink) I noticed that CCHPA is,
indeed, meeting on the 2nd at the Royal Executive Hotel, right after the
Looking to the Future session Medhat is putting on Monday in
Edmonton (details above). And I see that they do have a non-voting membership for $125.
I was reluctant to shell out $300, seeing as I'm retired, but I think I can afford the $125.
Now, I just hope I get something for that $125: a newsletter? a website, U.S. package bees pretty
soon???
I put off renewing some of the sites I host until late in the day. I wanted to get
it done this weekend, since there is a discount being offered. Wouldn't you know it? My
phones went dead around 4PM and I was unable to do the job. I plan to leave early tomorrow
and do the job from my daughter's, if they are not working by mid-morning.
I started exercising again. My weight crept up to 244, and stayed there, but is not
receding again, and I also feel the need to move. I went downstairs to the gym and did about
a half mile on the treadmill while watching "The Jackal". That was about all I felt like, and
plane to do more tomorrow, but I will have to clean up. When we put in the water, The guys
made a dusty mess, and I have been avoiding the place. No more.
Today : Cloudy becoming sunny this morning. Fog dissipating this
morning. Wind becoming west 30 km/h gusting to 50 this afternoon. High 4. /
Tonight : Clear. Wind west 20 km/h. Low minus 7. /
Normals for the period : Low minus 12. High minus 1.
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I mopped up in the gym and did a half mile, then got back to my desk. The phone was still
dead.
Last night, I had called Jean on the cell and asked her to report our problem, since the
only way to report service problems easily is to call 611. There is no other number listed by
Telus. Duh?! That's hard to do when your phone is dead. If you call 611 from a
cellphone, you don't get Telus service, you get the cellphone company. She is on Telus
landline service and so if she calls 611, she gets through to the right people immediately, and I
guess she did.
Before noon, the phones started working again, so I can catch up on a few things before I head
north.
Today : Sunny. Wind west 20 km/h. High minus 1. /
Tonight : Clear. Wind west 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 8.
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