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Sunday 1 June 2003
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| I got a call this morning, and was told that a prominent Northern
Alberta beekeeper was stopped at the US border with about 8,000 queens.
According to the rumour, he lost the queens, and had to pay a big fee to
get his truck back.
Given the terrible shortage of queens in the West this year, this was
bound to happen. Beekeepers are simply unable to buy queens beyond
the numbers rationed by Kona, and, with the very late, cold Spring, this
has been an awful year to try to raise them. Some are needed
for replacement, some for nucs, some for two-queening, and -- depending on
wintering success -- some are needed for splitting overly strong wintered
colonies to prevent swarming. The number needed is hard to predict in
advance.
Earlier this spring, efforts were underway to set up a protocol for
queen importation from the mainland USA, and hopes were high for getting
authorization to import this spring, but negotiations fell apart due to
infighting and pettiness. Everyone involved blames someone else for
intransigence, but this failure demonstrates -- conclusively -- the total
inadequacy of the political process in our industry in Canada, and the
impotence of the CHC.
Even those responsible for the failure of the importation project are
reportedly attempting to obtain queens where they can. N'est-ce pas?
Some smug beekeepers or regions of this country have system or climate
that allows them to get by without imported queens or even permits them to
sell queens -- at least for the present -- and are permanently opposed the
queen importation initiative. (Nonetheless we know that even some those
people sometimes have a failure, and have had to rely on purchased queens
once in a while, or on imported breeding stock). Some get mired down
in personal vendettas and oppose anything that would assist their imagined
enemies. Some simply have a conflict of interest and don't abstain.
Some are empire-defending bureaucrats. Others are just petty about
procedural matters. At any rate, the political process failed.
Through foresight, good luck, and good friends, I've had enough queens for
myself and a few friends, but I am getting lots of desperate calls for
queens, and I can't help. Newcomers to the industry in particular are
caught short.
Splitting should be almost finished for the year by now , if queens were
in good supply, but apparently desperate beekeepers are reduced to
smuggling queens -- at this late date -- because of a politically motivated
lack of supply. This situation is disgraceful. |
I worked on the books and tidying.
Today : A few showers early this morning then
cloudy with sunny periods and 30 percent chance of showers. Wind northwest 30
km/h. High 20. UV index 2 or low. / Tonight : Cloudy periods. 30 percent chance
of showers or thunderstorms this evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming
light. Low 7. / Normals for the period : Low 6. High 19.
Monday 2 June 2003
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Cleanup continues. We are also working on a truck which will be picked
up by a buyer tomorrow.
We had heavy rain this morning, tapering off in the afternoon, but the wind
picked up as the sun came out. A strong northwest wind made this a great
day to be at Eagle Lake, windsurfing, but El and I had other plans, and went to
Red Deer in mid-afternoon.
Splits needed to be checked today for queens , but the rain, wind and cool
weather has put the job off until tomorrow.
Today : Cloudy with sunny periods. 30 percent
chance of showers. Risk of a thunderstorm. Wind increasing to north 30 km/h.
High 17. UV index 6 or moderate. / Tonight : Clearing. Wind northwest 20. Low
6. / Normals for the period : Low 6. High 19.
Tuesday 3 June 2003
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Tonight, the AHPC board is holding an information meeting, and I have not
decided whether or not to go. I am retiring, but still have a lot of
money tied up in in equity there. If I do not go, I wonder how well my
interests will be protected. I have strong concerns about the management
of the enterprise, and its focus.
The meeting is being held, I assume, in hopes of encouraging members to
ship more honey to the co-op. Last year, in spite of efforts to set
specific price targets, and although the prices promised were realistic at
the time they were set, the targets quickly became out of date and fell far
below the market. As a result, management encountered strong doubt on
the part of members who could see how much honey was being sold into
retail at very low prices. Each time members walked into a store, they
could see their honey on sale for less than the co-op was promising to pay.
Retail prices for co-op honey on the store shelf stayed near -- or even
below -- the price promised for bulk honey well into the Fall!
Many members held back and reduced shipments to try to get the best possible
return, and also to prevent the co-op from using 'free' honey to compete
unfairly with other packers who were paying market price. It was
very apparent to many that, in order to meet the targets, that the co-ops
might very probably generate a loss in the current year, and somehow borrow
against the next year. That is a valid risk, but it seems questionable
to put losses off to the future, especially when our honey co-ops have never
made a profit. How can the co-ops recover a loss, except to give lower
returns sometime in the future? We have just (almost) finished
paying for the last screw-up. Although a loss is not permissible in
theory, the co-op has promised $2/lb, and will find it somewhere, or suffer
further erosion of confidence.
A co-op, endowed with members' money, and a good lead in the market,
should not only match the returns producers can get in the market, but should
also pay a profit to the members. In the past, though, as far as I
know, the co-op has always -- at best -- matched the market, and often fallen
short. Although I am sure the private honey packing firms manage a
return to shareholders of at least several percent on sales most years, the
co-ops have never AFAIK, been able to do so.
The buyers of one of our trucks came by around noon and we got them on their
way without much delay. I then drove to Edmonton, attended the BeeMaid
meeting, and got home around 1 AM.
When I arrived at the meeting in Spruce Grove, I noticed that almost
everyone there was either on the AHPC board, the Manitoba board, or on the
Beemaid staff, but there were a few non-management members -- including myself
-- there as well. After a number of presentations, we eventually learned
that Beemaid, by their current estimate, expects to miss the price target of
$2.00 for AHPC members by at least four cents, but management projects that
North American honey prices will continue steady around $US1.50 for the next
crop, making the $2 target easier to reach or exceed in the coming year.
I'll have some more in-depth comments when I have time (soon, I hope).
Today : A mix of sun and cloud with a 30
percent chance of showers. Wind northwest 20 km/h. High 16. UV index 5 or
moderate. / Tonight : Cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of showers. Wind
northwest 20. Low 9.
// Normals for the period : Low 6. High 19.
Wednesday 4 June 2003
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| Allen,
It seems the Southeast Texas honey crop ( tallow ) was almost a complete
bust. I hear reports of from starvation to maybe 50 pounds.
Now the big scramble is on for trucks to haul bees out of East Texas.
Talked with a trucker that told me if you can find a bee net, & have a flat
bed or drop deck trailer you can just about name your price for the
trucking bill.
Seems the rain just quit about 3 weeks ago after having upwards of over
50 inches in the last year. I read a deal yesterday were as many of the row
crop farmers corn & soybeans in South Texas are burnt off & were going to
file for federal crop insurance. If it don't warm up here in the Midwest, &
soon, I have no idea what to do. 10 days ago a person was afraid to feed to
much for fear they plug the brood nest, & now it's a day-to-day deal. Not
much fun feeding starving bees with honey supers on.
Honey prices seem to be $1.60 for white & $1.20 to tallow. One can only
guess as to how many million pounds short this tallow crop will be. I have
been told a good many bakers & what not depend on the tallow honey for
their entire year's supply of baking honey. |
We did the rear brakes on one truck today, and Paulo checked out the
remaining supers. Some have a bit of honey -- up to 5 lbs -- scattered in
the frames and are ideal for thirds. We want to make sure, though that
there aren't slabs of hard granulation that the bees won't liquefy.
Joe came for supper, and Ford's kids came for a load of supers.
Today : Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind north
30 km/h. High 20. UV index 6 or moderate. / Tonight : A few clouds. Wind north
20 becoming light near midnight. Low 6. / Normals for the period : Low 6. High
20.
Thursday 5 June 2003
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We finished the brake job and loaded some supers for a customer. That
was pretty much it.
Joe attended a pollinator's meeting in Southern Alberta today. Last
night, he was quite concerned because the company had come up with some
criteria for establishing hive sizes for bonuses and wanted everyone to sign
onto these new specifications. The intent was to reward beekeepers who
provide hives that are larger than the average, but Joe and I could see that,
if followed to the letter, the result would be that most hives currently
supplied -- even those from the best beekeepers -- would fail to meet the basic
minimum, and nobody would qualify for any bonus!
I've covered this topic before, since it has been a matter of great concern
to me in the past, when I was signing pollination contracts. A close
examination of the topic easily illustrates how totally unaware many beekeepers
are of exactly what is in their hives. There are a lot of beekeepers out
there that think they have 15 -- or more -- frames of brood in their hives when
they have actually about five full frames of brood distributed over 15 frames!
This lack of precision is not serious, and has no apparent effect on a
beekeepers performance or production, but it can be a very, very serious matter
when a seed growing company proposes writing numbers like that into a
pollination contract, then hires inspectors to enforce the contract -- as,
apparently, is the intent here.
Check out the facts here: One
Two Three. I would love to have
someone prove me wrong, and I have issued this challenge before. So far,
no one has, yet many continue to talk about frames OF brood and
frames WITH brood as if they were the same thing. Scary!
I heard later that Medhat had made a very sensible presentation on the topic
at the meeting, and that the idea of 15 frames of brood was quickly forgotten.
Today : Cloudy this morning. Clearing in the
afternoon. Wind increasing to north 30 gusting 50 km/h. High 21. UV index 6 or
moderate. / Tonight : Cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of showers overnight.
Wind diminishing to light. Low 5. / Normals for the period : Low 7. High 20
Friday 6 June 2003
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Today I asked the co-op to remove me from their membership list and to
refund all my deposits with them, and my equity. As readers may have
gathered, I am not at all impressed with the ability or philosophy of the
current board nor am I at all impressed by the focus of management.
I'll be writing about this in depth soon, here in this space, but I'll need
time to do a good job.
As you all know, I'm retired and changing direction, so I expect I'll be
writing less about the day to day beekeeping, and more about the politics and
management, as well as my travels. I expect to be visiting quite a few
beekeepers in the next year, and also to make it to EAS. There is
plenty of day to day material in the back pages of this diary, and things don't
change a lot from year to year.
At any rate, today we got our motorhome ready and took it for a shakedown
trip. We drove to Red Deer, then Ponoka, where we stayed in Jean and
Chris's back yard for the weekend. The motorhome ran fine, except for
some rumbling in the drivetrain which I suspect is due to bad motor mounts or a
rough steady bearing. We checked the fuel consumption and it came out at
7.9 MPG Imperial (or 5.6 MPG US). That's not too wonderful, but this was
measured on a tank of old gas, driving into a strong headwind. It's also
the first trip this unit has taken in a year or two or three...
Today : A mix of sun and cloud. Wind
increasing to north 30 gusting 50 km/h. High 17. UV index 6 or moderate. /
Tonight : Clear. Wind diminishing to light. Low 6. / ormals for the period :
Low 7. High 20.
Saturday 7 June 2003
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We stayed on Ponoka for the day, and I got a bit bored in the afternoon, so
I wandered thru some second hand stores and Liquidation World. I picked
up some movies and various necessities for the motorhome, and generally had a
wonderful time. These small prairie towns are delightful places to spend
a few days. We've always dreamed of spending a summer driving across
Canada, staying in each town along the way. I don't know if we will ever
do it the way we imagine, but maybe this summer, with no bees or staff to worry
about, and someone to care for our house and yard, we can do something a bit
like that.
Saturday : Sunny. High 25./ Tuesday :
Showers. Low 7. High 15.
Sunday 8 June 2003
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We left Ponoka at around noon and spent the afternoon in Red Deer shopping,
then arrived home at six. The mileage on the return trip was better: 9.3
MPG. If we get up to 10 MPG. I'll be happy.
Matt came by to do some welding and we crawled around under the motorhome to
see if we could spot the problem. We couldn't see anything obvious.
Sunday : Cloudy periods with 60 percent
chance of showers. Low 10. High 22.
Monday 9 June 2003
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Medhat was reading my diary and amplified my previous comments.
I asked if I could quote him, and he did not say, "No".
"Hi Allen,
We missed you at the pollination
meeting.
My understanding was that it was by invitation.
I wasn't invited or I'd have been there. Maybe I assumed incorrectly,
though, and it was an open meeting? After all I am pollinating; I
have 8 of my 47 hives on a saskatoon patch.
"I was looking at your diary and
found this statement "I heard later that Medhat had made a presentation
on the topic at the meeting, and that the idea of 15 frames of brood was
quickly forgotten" Is this statement the Scary part?
Hehehe. Nope. I hope it doesn't sound that way.
Did you follow the links to my previous ruminations on the topic? I was
glad to hear that you made some sense of the whole thing. I read the draft
contract and did not see the 60% part. Maybe there are a number of drafts
floating around...
Do you mind if I quote from your email in my diary?
What you say makes sense. I've been trying to make exactly those same
points since I first signed on pollination, and never managed to get the
ideas thru. They still confuse '15 frames with brood' with 15 frames of
brood'. As you know from your research, people are very poor at estimating
brood area unless they use a grid or have used one in the past.
It was an interesting subject.
Some beekeepers understood the statement in the draft contract as each
frame contains 60% brood. Looking at some of the literature "If 60% of
the frame contain uncapped and capped brood, the frame would be
considered frame of brood". Therefore, if the contract specifies 8-10
frames of bees, it would include 6-8 frames of brood. If any one will
supply more frames of bees and brood, the beekeeper will be compensated
by increasing the pollination fees by x%.
In my talk I put more emphasis
on having a colony in building up mode, more than having 15 frames of
bees and ready to swarm. Uncapping brood and egg laying queens will
increase the pollen foragers and the need of bees for pollen. The
contract concept is good to encourage beekeepers to place good hives and
eliminate the ones who supply boxes. A consideration was given to
beekeepers who run singles. They will be providing single-box hives that
will be mostly brood and bees. This would be tough call if the number of
frames of brood can't be more than 9.
These beekeepers with singles
will do intense management to maintain their hives and the compensation
for good hives can come from making more singles. I have seen this type
of hives in my surveys in NJ and Ontario.
Since, we don't have in Alberta data to give us an idea about the average
colony strength going to pollination or after pollination, I have
suggested to collect data for the next few years to set up data base.
These data could be used to set up the criteria for good pollination
units that will be good for the growers and beekeeper.
Inputs are appreciated.
I wrote back: "I read the draft contract and did not see the 60%
part. Maybe there are a number of drafts floating around..."
"Yes, there were another draft that had the 60% mentioned. I hope
after the meeting, it will be changed. I considered the best part when we
had 'hands on' in the field. The inspectors and beekeepers opened the
hives. If the colonies were to be moved to day, what would be good, above
average or under average? This was great to have the beekeepers and
inspectors on the same page.
The company representatives, bee inspectors, and beekeepers were very
understanding to the issues and cooperative.
Medhat
Medhat Nasr, Ph. D.
Provincial Apiculturist
Pest Risk Management Unit
Crop Diversification Centre North
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The problem I see is that experienced and technically competent people, who
have hands-on experience, are talking to people who are inexperienced,
subjective, and/or distant from the bees. Unless the terminology is
crystal clear, serious misunderstandings will inevitably arise at some point in
the game. In science, I think there is a saying that if you cannot
measure or quantify something, you don't really understand it. There are
standard measurements in use by bee scientists -- square inches, and/or square
decimeters -- and standard tools for estimating accurately -- wire or Plexiglas
grids. Why not use them, especially if a legal contract is being written
up on which the beekeepers' credibility and livelihood will depend, and where
serious dollars may ride on a few square inches?
I notice that, even when common words are used in legal contracts, they are
often defined for purposes of the contract, and capitalized throughout.
"Frames of brood" is a vague phrase that is made to be misunderstood,
and IMO, should never be used, except for casual purposes among friends, such
as in splitting hives.
| If a US standard Langstroth frame containing
brood on sixty percent of its comb area is, indeed, the standard, then
should we not be saying, "Frames of brood averaging 60% of brood, or
equivalent ".
But, if few frames are actually 60%, then why not
just say "160 square inches of brood" (same thing) or "1000
square centimeters of brood" (same thing), or "10 square
decimeters of brood" (same thing), for each such frame being
designated? |
What could be simpler, and more difficult to misinterpret, accidentally or
deliberately? Frankly, I think there is no substitute for using square
inches or square decimeters, and cannot imagine why anyone would use anything
else, except due to custom, ignorance or a deliberate attempt to deceive.
When money rides on each frame counted, then "Frames of brood" is far
too subjective. I'm rounding a bit in the above numbers, but, then,
saying 60% -- even from a grid measurement -- is not precise, We could
count cells, but...
Something else that can confuse is that different foundations have different
sizes of cells, and also comb area. A Pierco one-piece standard-sized
frame potentially contains 20% more brood than a wooden frame with
another brand of foundation, and, FWIW, there is about 5% more brood per square
inch in a comb with 5.25mm cells (Pierco standard frames) than a foundation
with 5.4mm cells. That can be meaningful. Oh, and hey! -- do we
count drone brood? Drones need feeding too.
Today : 60 percent chance of showers with a
risk of afternoon thunderstorms. High 17. UV index 6 or moderate. / Tonight :
Increasing cloudiness this evening then 60 percent chance of showers. Wind
southeast 20 km/h. Low 8. / Normals for the period : Low 7. High 20.
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