Uncapped combs coming out of Termeer's Dakota
Gunness
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We've had nice sunny days and warm nights for
most of the last two weeks and seldom had to close the windows at night.
Nonetheless, granulation is getting to be a serious problem with the honey from
some yards. We're still projecting about fifty pounds, but there may be a
second round in some yards.
El & I drove the truck and camper to Calgary to
do a little shopping.
Sunday..A mix of sun and cloud. Wind increasing to west 30.
High 18.
Tonight..60 percent chance of evening showers with risk of a thunderstorm
otherwise partly cloudy. Wind northwest 30 gusting 50 km/h. Low 5.
Normals for the period..Low 6. High 19.
El & I drove to Rolly View and visited Julie Termeer for an hour in the
afternoon, then drove to Wetaskiwin and took in a bit of the Harvest Festival
at the
Reynolds Alberta Museum, then dropped in at Jean and Chris' for supper.
The purpose of our trip was mainly to see Termeers' extracting operation
running, and this was the last day before their regular (student) crew returned
to school. We shot some video and took some stills. Barrie was out
pulling honey when we were there and was not expected home until 9:30 or so, so
Julie showed us around.
Today..A mix of sun and cloud. Wind southwest 20 km/h. High
20.
Tonight..Increasing cloud after midnight. Wind west 30 diminishing. Low 9.
Normals for the period..Low 6. High 19.
This morning we blew bees out of the supers that still had not abandoned and
pulled the home yard again. This yard has been robbing the granulation
and broken combs and get filled up quite quickly. Then Paulo headed out
to Pages North.
Late in the day, I went to Calgary to
pick up more n-butyric anhydride and the styro hives that I have gotten for a
project and returned to meet with Les about our water and sewer hook-up.
Paulo returned late -- 8:15. He had gone to the wrong yard and gotten
86 boxes, not the 48 that I thought he would be getting. He is the kind
of guy who likes to finish, so he stuck it out and worked until he did the
whole yard, even though he was very late. He had taken a Swinger
along today, and found it a big help.
Today..A mix of sun and cloud. Wind becoming west 20 km/h.
High 21.
Tonight..Mainly clear. Wind southwest 30 diminishing. Low plus 3.
Normals for the period..Low 5. High 19.
I was wondering if it was expensive to convert your extractors to DC
drive? Any tips to share?
Actually our extractors are not DC drive, but use a simple friction drive
similar to the ones on Hodgson units. I showed a
picture of the drives back
on Wednesday July 25th, 2001
and discussed them a bit on the 22nd. I reckon they cost about US$50 for the
sprockets, pulleys and chains. The motor is a 1/2 or 3/4 HP AC capacitor
start ball bearing type capable of running in a vertical position.
I thought that you used to have a Dakota Gunness uncapper; was yours an
older model and were you happy with it?
We did have a Dakota, and sold it to go to the Cowen, which proved to be a
disaster for us. The Dakota is particularly good if the frames being
extracted are a variety of shapes and sizes or missing tabs. The age of a
Dakota does not matter, but if a Dakota is too noisy, simply changing the
bearings on the flails to a higher quality quiets them right down.
Of the two honey houses that you looked at and filmed which one was the
most impressive and why?
As far as which honey house was more impressive, I would say they are
equally impressive and that there are advantages for both, Meijers
requires some expert operators, while Barrie's can run all day with only high
school kids. Otherwise there is nothing to make one better than the
other. They both have about the same capacity.
The east
bathroom sewer is plugged again. Dennis and I took the Sawzall to the
pipe and soon discovered that the pipe was not only badly corroded, but also
that the four inch pipe had reduced to about 1-1/2 inches due to deposits. See
picture on right. The plug that stopped the whole thing up was washcloth
that someone had flushed down the toilet. We have very good idea who did
it, since she demonstrated a bad attitude the whole time she was here and -- as
it turned out -- also left stacks of partially filled supers and broken combs
that we discovered only after I finally convinced Ellen to fire her.
She had been hired out of hope. We were short of people -- it always
happens at Labour Day when the kids go back to school. When we are
scraping the bottom of the barrel, Ellen gets to hoping that any unlikely
person will become a good operator and will attempt to train anyone who can
walk in the door unassisted. On the other hand, I insist that we only hire
people who have a chance of becoming good, and who can demonstrate good
attitude and an understanding of all the intricacies in reasonable time.
Our policy is to immediately release anyone who is not shaping up during
training, but sometimes we waver a bit if no replacement is in sight.
This always proves to be a mistake. Past experience has shown that any
potential will be evident within the first 6 loads and usually lack of
potential is apparent long before that point. We have some scenes about
this, since if we are short of operators, there is a tendency to try to 'make a
silk purse out of a sow's ear'.
We'll replace the entire run of sewer pipe -- thirty feet horizontal, and
seven feet vertical, with new ABS. I went to town and got the pieces
we'll need in late afternoon
Meijers came for supper, since they needed some Bee Repel and I had
gotten some from Willy at Medivet when I
went to Calgary. I found that 2 litre pop bottles work just fine.
It is extremely important to label the bottles very obviously,
since we use the same bottles for carrying drinking water sometimes -- and the
n-butyric anhydride is as looks just like water. I don't know id I ever
mentioned here about the time I took a good swig of regular gasoline thinking
it was ginger ale in a two litre ginger ale bottle. Someone had picked up a
bottle that and put it into my motorhome refridgerator. That was
bad enough, with much vomiting and -- a while later -- an amazing amount of
intestinal gaseous activity plus a severe case of the 'dire rear' and
exhaustion, but a swig of n-butyric anhydride would be much, much worse.
Today..A mix of sun and cloud with a 30 percent chance of
showers. Wind north 20 km/h. High 16.
Tonight..Mainly cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers. Wind north 20. Low 7.
Normals for the period..Low 5. High 19.
I installed QuickBooks 2002 and paid bills this morning. I hate Intuit
and their attempts to get as much money as they can from me, but have gotten
somewhat hooked, since my accountant uses QB.
In the afternoon, Dennis and I did the sewer repairs. I had to run to
town a second time for a few remaining pieces before we could start. We
decided to do just the vertical section, since the horizontal run was working
passably for now. We have the material and we'll do it when there is less
pressing work in the field and extracting.
Today..Rain. Wind north 20 km/h. High 8.
Tonight..Periods of rain. Total rainfall 10 to 20 mm. Wind north 20. Low 5.
Normals for the period..Low 5. High 19.
Paulo and Marvin went east to Metzgers and the Carraganas to try tipping up
the supers above the thirds with a brick to see if the bees will go down.
Blowing bees is slow and sometimes it is too cool and wet, so we are trying new
tricks. Escape boards would be a good idea, but we would need hundreds
and putting them in is a bit of work. Thus we wind up blowing the supers
out when we can.
I joined them at the Graveyard and we started blowing out the supers.
All was going nicely when a funeral procession showed up across the road at the
graveyard, a few hundred yards away. We stopped blowing for the duration
of the ceremony, since I imagined that the screaming of the Stihl would be
rather annoying to the bereaved. The cars left after twenty minutes or
so, leaving only the backhoe and a dump truck, so we resumed our earthly toils.
Extracting continues, albeit slowly. It seems matched to our field
work capabilities though, and we have a new crew to replace the students who
are now gone. We need another person or two, and hopefully the pace will
pick up.
It looks as if we had a late flow in some yards, so the crop may be better
than we had thought. We put the supers back on, even though it looked hopeless
and many are full. If there is one thing I've learned over the years it
is this: if you don't put lots of supers on, you won't get a crop -- or even
know that there was honey to be had.
Now it is just a matter of getting it off and extracted. For a few
days we hit serious granulation and were worried that all the honey would be
hard. It turns out that that problem may have been limited to a yard or
two, since the honey now is mostly liquid and the moisture is a bit higher,
which is good since it allows the extracting to go faster.
We always look at our northern neighbours and think we should be finished
sooner than we can be. We are never done extracting until October.
We have a load on hand ready to ship, now, but are waiting to se what the
market does. I phoned around, and apparently Billy Bee is offering
$2.06/lb Canadian ($US 1.32) for bulk honey. Other buyers are offering
prices at least that high.
Friday..Mainly cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers. Risk
of a thunderstorm. Wind becoming southeast 20. High 14.
Tonight..Cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind light. Low 6.
Saturday..30 percent chance of showers in the morning. Rain developing near
midday. Wind northeast 20 km/h. High 9.
Sunday..Sunny. Low 3. High 20.
Monday..Sunny. Low 5. High 21.
Tuesday..Sunny. Low 6. High 23.
Normals for the period..Low 5. High 18.
It's raining again this morning. The drought is over and we've been getting
lots of rain over the past three weeks. We've had over an inch in the
last few days. It's making getting the boxes off the hives difficult, since we
are not getting much weather that would permit using repellant boards.
Moreover, the bees are not flying much and therefore will not abandon.
If we tip supers and the weather is good, they do not know where to go if they
do leave, and they just return and sit on the supers, so we are using blowers.
Blowers are slower, extra work, and noisy.
We are working today. Paulo and Marvin will be going out to pull honey with
a blower, assuming the rain stops. Yesterday they got only 108 boxes of
honey and about forty empties, but they pulled three yards down to doubles
between eleven and six-thirty. I'm hoping we can get a longer and more
productive day in today, but the weather does not look good.
We have Ruth and Bonnie and
Dennis on extracting.
This just in from an US
reader:
We were offered $US1.50 ($2.34
CAD) fob our dock & drums exchanged. I have heard of as high as
$US1.62 ($2.53 CAD) in the last week for more than one source.
Well, its 4 PM and we did not go
out. The weather was wet all day, so I let Paulo off. He called
from Red Deer at noon, and since it was still raining, I said he might as well
stay there. Marvin came in for an hour or two in the afternoon, but left
just as the sun came out to pick up his new washer and dryer in town before the
store closes.
It is clearing now and I am very tempted to go out myself and get 50 boxes
or so, but I'd have to get a truck ready, and besides it's Saturday night.
The grass is wet and I'm afraid that blowing bees onto the ground would kill
too many. We do use gunny sacks for the bees to land on when it is cold
or wet, but I don't know -- I just have just felt a bit under the weather all
day.
I spent the day catching up here at my desk, tidying up downstairs, helping
in the extracting room, etc.
Around four-thirty, I got antsy to
pull some honey and headed to a nearby yard, Metzgers, where we had tried
raising the top boxes with a brick to see if the bees would leave them and go
down. As I arrived, the weather was foggy, but the rain had stopped.
Within an hour of leaving home, I had 16 supers on a pallet and the job was
going well, but, as I worked, over the roar of the blower I heard a loud
rumble. Looking up, saw a thunderstorm headed my way. I
continued work, hoping it would pass, but as soon as the rain started, the bees
refused to budge from the boxes.
At any time, bees can be harder to blow off combs with open cells, but
suddenly they held tight even on capped combs and became impossible to blow
loose, even with high velocity air at close range, so I loaded up to go.
I was wet, and the bees were not willing to move out. Even with the light
rain, the bees on the ground were just fine and climbing back into the hives
nicely, but the ones in the boxes were hanging on for all they were worth.
My policy is to work with the bees, not against them, and they were adamant, so
there was no sense sticking around.
Thus far, it had only been raining lightly and I had been hoping it would
taper off, but, rather than lessening, the drizzle turned into a cloudburst,
first with heavy rain, then hail. In was ready to go, but the grassy ruts
in the trail leading out of the yard quickly filled with water and the surface
got slick. Even though there was hardly any slope, the tires loaded up
with mud and spun without gripping, and I had to leave the forklift and trailer
in the yard.
I'd have used the Swinger to tow the truck out, but in my hurry to go out to
work, I had taken Paulo's vehicle -- as-is -- and it turned out that he wasn't
carrying a logging chain. We have a standard list of items to carry, but
the guys get into a rush and cut corners. There was a lot of useless junk
in the side boxes, but no chain.
Today..Cloudy with occasional showers. Wind light. High 11.
Tonight..Mainly cloudy. Wind becoming west 20 km/h. Low 5.
Normals for the period..Low 5. High 18.
I've grown a bit tired of BEE-L and some of the persistent troublemakers
that are pests to the moderators. I get tired of trying to decide who is
trying to bait whom, and of one particular fanatic who insists on replying to
every post about bees in Arizona to expound his unsubstantiated theories over
and over. I've decided to take a break from moderating BEE-L. Maybe
I've outgrown it. Who knows? I worked very hard to make it a good
environment for discussion. At any rate, I was looking back to the last
time I listed my BEE-L posts here and it appears to have been March.
Since then, I have logged 166 BEE-L posts -- too many to list here, so I'll
just give the URL to
a listing of my posts on the BEE-L server.
I've been considering using 'wind boards' and Bee Repel®. I notice
that Jim has a page on
the web describing his version of the boards and calling them 'breeze
boards'. Has any reader here used these boards, and how well do they
work?
A fun experiment: Lots of people from all over the world are telling
me (in conversation, by phone, in person or by email) they are reading these
pages. Some time back I gave up on hit counters and I also made my ISP
take away the visitor tracking cookies they added without my permission when I
discovered them, BUT, I'm curious. How about sending me a quick email --
even if the message body does not say anything -- with the subject line "I
read the diary page". Just click
here, type in the
subject, (I read the diary page), and hit 'send'. I won't keep the emails
or track anyone in any way. I'm just curious. I'll count them and
report the total here, not that I expect that everyone or nearly everyone will
send an email. Many like to just lurk, undetected and anonymous.
BTW, if you read this after the end
of September 2002, please do not respond. I don't want to keep getting
these emails forever :)
While writing on this: I should
mention that I do appreciate the personal notes I receive from readers, and
although I use some of them in these pages, I never reveal who wrote them
without prior permission from the writer, and without a good reason, such as
giving credit where credit is due.
At eleven, I went out to get my forklift, and to pull the rest of the honey.
I know it's Sunday and I need a day off, but I just really felt like working.
I got another 37 boxes in about three hours total and brought everything back.
The yard is now reduced to doubles. Although the supers were not plugged,
the hives seem heavy. I wonder how much I'll have to feed.
When I got back, I made a web page for a friend
with cattle for sale, then drove a load of broken combs to one of our robbing
yards to get it cleaned out. Dennis had gotten it ready; he came in today
to do some odds and ends of jobs.
I've concluded that -- in spite of my projections
-- I really don't know how much honey we have left out there until we visit all
the yards again and pull the supers. The drought knocked the stuffing out
of July's crop, but there were flows in some yards in August.
Well, I have some replies (
15 so far ) to my little survey already. Here's one of general
interest:
hello Allen; MADE UP SOME WIND BOARDS, USE 4" ABS PLASTIC elbows,
& burlap to absorb b-go, work excellent in a 20 mph breeze,
elbows can turn into the wind. You can also apply smoke into the
elbow, speeding the process up.
I also have heard from a reliable source that the small hive
beetle has arrived in Manitoba, came with a load of wax or comb to a wax
rendering plant. No official word yet...
I think I'll try them. I find blowing works
well -- I've done it for years when necessary -- but repellants are faster and
do less (immediate and obvious anyhow) damage to the bees. When we blow,
bees always get stepped on and confused. Repellants just drive them down
inside their own hive. The excluders slow and complicate the use of
repellants when we get down to the thirds, but the thirds are a problem with
the blower too, since there are so many bees in the thirds that the bees can
jam up between the combs if the operator is not deft at blowing.
Now I'm looking for the easiest-to-build and most
rugged wind board design. I've been thinking that I might use some extra
standard supers we have around and use wood 3/4" X 1" strips screwed inside
about 1/2 way up to hold the burlap. I'd use plywood screwed to the top
with a hole large enough to hold a 4" ABS elbow, maybe with a stub of pipe for
the elbow to sit upon to rotate.
Robinsons came for hamburgers
outside and we had a nice barbeque. Maurice stayed home, but Flo, Wendy
and David came and they brought fresh fruit from BC -- and three tiny kittens
that had been abandoned by the mother cat and needed feeding every few hours.
It's still too early in the morning for the weather forecast.
I'm up at 2:30 AM writing because I had two small glasses of mead last night.
I seem to be sensitive to this batch. I've pretty well given up drinking,
but have experimented a bit lately. I don't like what I am seeing.
I suspect that I am best off without drinking any alcohol due to what it does
to my immune system. This morning, before awaking completely, I had some
rather vivid and interesting dreams; I then woke up, a bit stuffed up and wide
awake. I took a Claratin and hopefully will get tired again soon so
can resume my night's sleep.
I'm up to 17 responses now, in addition to the emails I've
received over the past months (only one from a fellow insomniac so far,
judging by the date stamp in the headers). It's surprising to me how
many people say they read these pages, and how many say they read them daily.
Some wrote a bit about themselves and from that sampling, the readership
appears to cover a spectrum of wannabees, new beekeepers, hobby beekeepers,
sideline people, and a few commercials. I doubt that I will have
time to write a personal comment to each of those who took the time to write
a paragraph or two -- especially if the replies keep coming in at this rate
-- but right here I'll say, "Thanks". I appreciate and enjoy
every word.
I wonder how many people just read the current page, and
how many go back and read pages from the past. I have to confess that
the reason I began writing this diary was to try to remember what I did in
the past when I came to the point of repeating a mistake from the previous
year. This business changes every day, and by the time a year rolls around,
the previous year's activities are lost in all the other memories -- unless
the physical wreckage resulting from a past goof-up are still there to remind
me. Nothing remains to remind of the smart ideas that saved time or the
agonies of decision making.
It's amazing what we forget. My wife and I were
trying to figure out why we gave up the Dakota Gunness a few years back.
I'm still not sure, I think it had to do with going on pollination and
having a lighter crop. The flails are hard on empty comb. Or
maybe it had to do with getting Pierco frames. the flails make a racket going
over the end bars. I just don't recall, and that is annoying. I also
often forget that I had to do some little thing at a particular time. I
figured that writing on the web would make me stick to it, and indeed, the
feedback has been very gratifying.
Some writers congratulate me on admitting my mistakes
openly and say that they find this very useful. I have to confess, once
again, that I do hide a few, particularly some that are of such a
personal nature that I would be uncomfortable making them public, or those
that involve other people who should not be identified.
One writer took me to task for my complaints about
QuickBooks and I found his comments interesting. I suppose if my QB
upgrades and use had been trouble-free, and support had been easy to get,
and if they had actually improved the software between 2000 and 2002 (the
interface is still horrible and clunky by today's standards), and weren't
charging over $20/month for sending users the same tax tables the
government supplies for free (except they somehow cripple the software so
it won't work without their version to provide the payroll 'service'), and
if the software had not made a mistake that caused me to overpay deductions
by $300 last year (I can't ever recover it because there is no reasonable
way to determine how the software made the error), and if I hadn't bought
the Pro version in 2000 based on the web page creation function which
proved to be very limited and a waste of space and time, and if they had
not told me that I could not go back to the regular version and still read
my files (which proved to be untrue), I would be more happy with them.
I'm sure I left many more gory details out of this litany of complaint, but
I think that readers get the general drift. I'm glad he is happy with
Intuit and that it works properly where he lives. I gather I am not
alone in my dissatisfaction because, over here in Canada at least, Intuit
is offering its software at fire sale prices. That's why I decided to
try the upgrade. The package has a 100% unconditional money
back guarantee for 60 days and I am considering carefully whether to claim
on it. I would never have upgraded if I did not get that guarantee.
Here's some more help on
making and using the wind boards. Thanks.:
I use "wind boards". The way I have them made is
like a regular fume board or candy board is made without the solid part.
A layer or 2 (not too much so the air can move freely) of burlap is held by
1/2 inch strips nailed or stapled where the solid piece would be secured.
I use a candy board with a 4 inch hole (or thereabouts to fit a stovepipe
elbow 's crimped end snuggly) cut right in the center.
I place the burlap fume board on the hive off set with
corners hanging over to start with until the bees start moving down.
If you do not do this the bees will respond to either the light or air and
go up against the burlap and stay there just like a window. And
obviously the repellent makes them sick.
The "wind board" (I have never heard them referred to as
that or any other name for that matter) is placed on top. The key is
frequent, light applications of repellent. Also when you apply
repellent, do not do it over a hive as some leaks through the burlap.
I stack 3 or 4 up on the truck bed and apply the repellent so the fume
boards below catch the leak through.
The stove pipe is nice because it will swivel to make
minor adjustments for the wind. Of course the stove pipe can be
turned in the hole in the board to compensate for major wind change or
hives facing different directions.
I would agree with your other respondent that some smoke
puffed into the stove pipe or even through the burlap before the stove pipe
is applied goes a long way toward helping. It does not take much air
movement to make these work (if there is not much air movement I use the
smoke from my smoker to tell which way to face the open end of the stove
pipe). And they will work on days when repellent otherwise does not.
Give them a try. One other thing, it does not take very many of these
to keep you busy pulling honey in a yard.
I suppose that this comment about repellant dripping through makes my idea
of using the burlap suspended inside supers look like less of a good plan.
I'm just trying to find the easiest way, and using what I have handy would save
a lot of carpentry.
7:30 AM: I awoke, dead tired, and my hands are stiff and sore --
probably from lifting heavy standards yesterday, but also quite likely from
effects of that small amount of mead. That mead just isn't good for me
any more.
It's a gorgeous sunny day and the rest of the week looks good, if only the
forecast proves out. This year the weather forecasts have been unreliable
for even a few days into the future. Some years they are dead on all the
time. Not this year.
Eight more feedback emails for a total of 25 and most say they read here
daily! I had no idea.
Here's a comment from a regular correspondent and frequent source of
good info:
Both my #1 son & I read this every day. I at work & he at home...
Ya should have kept the Gunness. My hired man &
I managed 33+ drums in the last 3 sessions that averaged a work day of 7
hours each day. Yes that's 2 people, the Gunness, a 60 frame Dadant & a 45
frame Woodman. Hard numbers to beat.
I wonder how you handled all those cappings. As
I recall, I used to put everything into one tank, then skim the cappings wax
into drums and send it for rendering. I'd get a slightly reduced price
for the honey and full payment for the wax, all for a $40 per drum cost.
I've continued to do this to this day, but last year, I think some of the honey
disappeared and I never got to asking about it. I think I need a better
way to handle wax. The two operations I visited recently both use spin
floats, and for all their troubles, I think they may still be the best answer.
We had four people extracting today and we are into
some very heavy supers. There were a few yards that did not get a first
pull, and they are plugged. As a result, we upped the piecework price a
few dollars a load and it is amazing how that improves morale -- not that there
was a problem with this bunch before, but rather that we wanted to ensure that
we were paying fairly. It seems that there is a psychological
target wage in peoples' minds and if they are too close to that number, or
below it, they are vaguely unhappy. Above that, they are suddenly quite
content. This number changes over time and with t economic conditions and
it is hard to guess when it has made a quantum jump, or what number will ring
the bell. I think we just crossed that line. With the high and ever
increasing price of honey, we feel more confident paying more and sharing the
wealth, but we also remember the many years -- most years -- where we had to
watch every penny to stay above water Of course we may not sell at the
top. We're in a spot. We have a co-op quota and are putting honey
into co-op drums, but we are looking at the spot market which is currently
$1.00 above what the co-op is projecting. If the price continues up and
stays up for the next 8 months or more, we will get a market top price, but if
it recedes, then we will wind up with a blended price that may be much lower
than the peak. Should we sell outside the co-op, or stay inside? I
hate to give honey to the co-op and have them use it to drive down the market
price and beat up on honest competitors who are paying top price when the co-op
actually has no set cost for its honey intake.
I didn't make any wind boards today. Paulo
and Marvin went to some west yards and the butyric is working just fine with
solar boards. I'll have to get to this project soon, but I was kept busy
all day with odd jobs and a trip to the doctor to have my broken finger checked
Did I mention that? Back in August, it got hammered when we were
repairing the quonset and it has been in a splint ever since. Three more
weeks, then they will x-ray it again and make a pronouncement.
.Today..Sunny. Wind becoming west 20 km/h. High 19.
Tonight..Clear. Wind west 20. Low 6.
Normals for the period..Low 4. High 18.
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