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Sunday April 9th, 2000
A day of rest - Not. Was expecting a call from Morley
anytime after 6 AM. Called him around 8:30 and he was in Calgary.
Turns out his route was to go right past our door, so he dropped off the
shipment and I did not have to drive to get them.
Called Matt and Steve to tell them to start at 3 PM and
notified Adony. Steve was really under the weather. His parents
had a huge party Saturday night and I think he did himself some harm.
He was asleep at 8:30 in the morning and still asleep when I called to
remind him at 2:45, so we had to do without him.
Matt & El, and I got ready and
Adony showed up around 4. We went to Deer Run and the guys had set
the whole thing up quite nicely so we pulled the centre frames out to start
dumping bees in and guess what? The first box had four frames of AFB
in the middle. What can I say?
Since we began using extender patties some time back we
have not come across any AFB at all while splitting. However
we had some dead outs from previous years -- before we started using
patties -- that were marked and set aside for processing in the shop.
They were finally processed this spring and about ten frames of scale were
found in them. That's not too bad, considering that up to 4% AFB is
the norm in many commercial operations. This find amounts to less
than 1/10 of 1% on a large number of hives, a level which is as low as any
I know of anywhere.
Instructions to my brood chamber crew were to watch for any
signs of disease and set everything questionable aside for inspection by a
qualified beekeeper. These frames were so obvious that anyone
could spot them from twenty feet. I can only conclude that someone picked
up the only two boxes of diseased frames in the entire outfit and mistook
them for brood chambers. The only other conclusion can reach is
deliberate sabotage and I do not want to believe that. I am amazed
and really disappointed in the guys I trusted with this important job.
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This experience underlines why it is so important to
keep things in storage or in process physically separate from
one another and to mark any anomalies clearly.
It also shows why it is so important to destroy any
AFB as soon as it is found in any outfit where AFB is not normally
found. |
If we normally had significant levels of AFB, which we do
not, then then the danger of contamination by a few frames would less of a
concern, since where several percent of the hives are diseased, the
assumption must be that disease is in every hive and that a few diseased
combs will not change things much. However, where AFB is almost never
seen, it can be assumed that any introduction of even one diseased comb
will magnify risk considerably.
We'll look through the winter dead outs and see if we find
more. Hives with significant AFB invariably die over winter (We did
not find any). At these low levels of AFB, I think it would pay us to
just melt or burn it and not fool around trying to save equipment.
That is especially true if there is a danger that some employee will mix
the diseased combs back into a number of good brood chambers by mistake.
If we were looking at the higher levels, the situation might be different,
but antibiotic resistant AFB is showing up everywhere these days and why
take a chance? We know we are on a very thorough medication regime,
so anything that breaks down could be it -- and must be destroyed.
Anyhow, we glanced everything else over and installed the
bees in rain and light snow. The bees looked good and came up nicely.
There was no queen loss in this 100 hive batch and we made some small nucs
to hold the extra queens.
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We did have some problems with the feeders
that came in the packages. I guess they are still working on
the design, but the feeders did drown a lot of bees and we spent some
time saving what we could.
One thing about which we were not warned was that
these feeders are full of bees when they arrive, and if we invert the
packages, the syrup runs over the bees and the bees are soaked.
I guess this has happened in the past, but was quite noticeable this
time. Of course the first thing we do when installing the bees
is to invert the package to dump out the big hole in the top, so we
did wet a lot of bees before we got smart. -- especially since we
were installing in the dark on the first load. This time we
were working in daylight and could see the problem.
Seems that the only way to install these packages
without significant loss is to bang them down to drop the bees to the
bottom, rip the screen off, then dump the bees, remove the feeder and
set it aside.
A large problem is that weather can be very cool
when installing and unless the feeders are cut open, many bees are
lost to chilling in the feeders -- unless the feeders are all taken
into a warm room overnight and the bees accumulated from a window in
the morning. That's a bit of fussing, but I guess the good old
tried and true atmospheric can feeders can't work on airplanes. |
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Adony's experiments were all set up when we got to his
yard, but we decided to do ten hives with new Pierco dark frames as
well, and spent some time changing the set-up. Then we installed
the bees.
Since many of these hives were without any feed except
what was in the frame feeder, and are on new foundation, and the
weather was cool, we used fondant on all hives in the yard. Since
the fondant is immediately above the cluster, they cannot starve.
That's the theory anyhow. |
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Matt & Adony installing bees. Not sure exactly what
each is doing here, but it is a nice picture. Dark & light
comb and white and black Permadent can be seen |
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The bees are coming up nicely on the frames. Patties
and fondant (in box), white Permadent, black Permadent, and white
comb treatments are visible. |
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The lids can go on now. The bees are coming up
and the fondant, extenders and protein patties are in place.
Hopefully they will cluster under them. Some won't and we will
have to check soon before they starve. |
We finished at nine and all went back for supper and to
debate the weight of honey bee workers.
Monday April 10th, 2000
I guess he looked it up as soon as he got home, because the
header says that at Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:04:28 EDT, Adony emailed me
the definitive answer. I was only off by 100% or so -- I guess I was
remembering the weight of queens, not workers. He quotes from mark
Winston's The Biology of the Honey Bee...
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Emergence weight of honey bees shows as wide a
range as development times and brood weights.
For example, the ranges of average emergence
weights for workers, drones and queens are 81-151mg, 196-225mg, and
178-191mg, respectively (according to 17 different studies reviewed
by Jay 1963a, and Lee and Winston 1985a).
Post emergent adult bee weights show similar
variability in weight; the range of mean weights per bee for samples
of only 20 bees each was 81-140mg...
Factors affecting emergent worker weights include
CELL SIZE, the number and age of nurse bees, colony population,
availability of nectar and pollen, disease and season....There is
also a genetic component....' |
The emphasis on cell size is Adony's. He knows I still am
not sold on cell size as anything but a limiting factor. My response
on that point:
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Right, obviously smaller cell = smaller bee, but
does bigger cell = bigger bee? When we bind a little girl's feet, we
get smaller feet, but when we don't they don't get any bigger than
what we consider the 'natural' size -- determined by analogous
factors to those you list. |
As clarification, I am not saying that larger cells don't
make for slightly larger bees -- I have been aware for a long time that
this seems to be proven. What I am saying is that the increase in
size is insignificant to most of us and not an important effect of any
practical significance, and that other ways of getting superior bees such
as genetics, nutrition, location, etc. are much easier to arrange and
likely to have greater positive effects in most areas of concern.
I am open to the idea that larger cells may provide a
different environment that could have both positive and negative effects on
the inhabitants, as could -- just as easily -- smaller cells. I am
very interested in the debate being carried on, but am not passionate about
it and think the bees probably know best. As we have seen, our
friendly neighbourhood bees in North America and Europe seem to like to
build cells mostly in the 5.2 to 5.4 mm range (with occasional counts down
to 5.0) when given the freedom to do as they please. This fact has
not been missed by the researchers and foundation makers for the most part.
On the topic of measured brood areas, I had asked Adony to
look up any studies he could find where actual brood areas were recorded to
see if they corresponded to what I calculated from the observations of egg
laying made by the authors I had read. He responds:
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Also, looking in Tom Seely's 'Honey Bee Ecology' I
learn that among feral bee colonies in Upstate NY, colonies generally
do not exceed 30,000 cells of SEALED brood before they swarm. |
I immediately did some figuring and replied thus:
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...If the larva stage is 5.5 days and the egg is
3, then the pupal stage is 21 - 3 - 5.5 = 12.5 days.
Using the 30,000 SEALED cells divided by 12.5 we
get a queen laying 2400 eggs a day (average) over the 12.5
days, at least. How can that be???
That is the equivalent of five full frames of
capped brood, and figuring thus, 2400 X 21 = 50,400 cells of eggs and
brood, or 50,400 / 6500 = 7.75 frames ENTIRELY full of brood.
The authors I read all seemed to think a good
queen did 1200 to 1500 eggs a day. What gives?
...And he says 'generally'. There are some with
more brood than that!? |
This is only one report and it clearly does not seem to
confirm what I had calculated. I look forward to hearing more on this
matter and clearing up the apparent conflict in observations.
Today was mostly a desk day and I got quite a bit
accomplished. El & I decided to go to town in the late afternoon and
picked up some supplies.
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Tuesday:
Increasing cloudiness. 40 percent chance of showers in the evening.
High 8 |
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Tomorrow does not look too bad for feeding and checking
bees, so I think we will get a couple of crews out working in the yards --
if we can.
Tuesday April 11th, 2000
We were out of here by 9 AM. I think that is a
record. Even if the trucks are loaded the day before, it seems as if
we are seldom out by 10.
Today, we started by visiting Adony's yard.
the weather has been cool, and we want to make sure the hives on foundation
are not starving. It happens so easily. They have a feeder full
of syrup, but they have to get to it. They have fondant, but they
have to recognize it and begin on it. Sometimes bees just seem to be
brain-dead. Or maybe they are demoralized as the old writers liked to
say..
Matt had been sent up to the yard yesterday
to check them at the end of the day, but I wasn't convinced that he had
managed to do everything possible. The report seemed a bit scary.
We went back and did it again. I reckon we saved
about $250 worth of bees, minimum. One hive had the fondant bag
upside down -- slits up. Several had the bees out of touch with the
feed.
The cluster in packages forms wherever they decide, not
necessarily where we put the feed, so adjustments must be made. On
foundation, the cluster is much smaller than on comb, and there is no place
to put food during the day, except inside the bees. In order to make
wax, the bees must hang stationary in clusters and they take up little
space. All in all, it is a bit depressing to see, but in science, one
must try things that seem dumb and not just assume that we know.
For some reason -- Tim will be glad to know - the Pierco
hives all looked much nicer to me than the Permadent ones. It's
subjective, I know, but just look at the pictures. Point to them and
read the caption. In the one on the left in the above paragraph, the
bees are quivering (starving?) even though they had fondant in contact with
them. We're drizzling a bit of syrup from the feeder on them with a
hive tool -- and hoping...
Here is what the bees really do well on -- drawn comb. I
don't know why the magazine always tell beginners to start with foundation
when even an expert has problems. Wait... yes... I do!
Aren't all the magazines owned by equipment manufacturers? Hmmmm.
The dead bees in the frame feeders (deliberately shown
here) are from the feeders (shown above) that come in the packages,
not from live bees drowning in the frame feeder. There were
dead bees in the feed we added to the feeders. We dumped the
extra feed into the feeders. We put any live soaked bees where they
could be saved by the rest of the bees -- as much as we could.
Now, here's a good bunch of bees. They've
eaten right up thru the fondant! They're one of the better looking
groups on Permadent. Shucks! I can't see if it is white or
black.
Something we will have to remember when we compare results
is this: The Pierco frames were straight out of a box that was purchased in
spring 1998. The white Permadent was purchased in the spring of 1999
and some had been installed into new frames as long ago as several months
and stored in open supers under a roof. The black Permadent had been
installed into new frames quite recently.
We went on to unwrap some more hives at Frere's. The guys
got right into it and we unwrapped 160 in about 3 hours, including putting
on two protein patties and a grease patty -- and feeding 67% syrup in the
frame feeder that we keep year round in every brood box. We also
cleaned up thoroughly. Of the 160, 27 were dead or shaken out. That's 17%.
Very consistent.
I left a little early to write paycheques. They did
not mind. They then went on to Elliott's and Sommervilles'. No
report yet.
Tomorrow's
forecast:
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Wednesday: Mainly cloudy with occasional
snow developing in the afternoon. Snowfall amounts near 5 cm. Wind
becoming northerly 40 km/h gusting 60 in the afternoon. High plus 6
temperature becoming cooler in the afternoon. |
Now, here's our April 13th storm coming. I've talked
about it for years and it almost never misses. It missed by one day
this year, but then that's the prediction. We'll see.
I hope we get the 80+ degree May the 8th we used to get.
Some years the warmest day of the year came in May. In years when we
had a hot week in early May, the bees simply exploded three weeks later,
since huge amounts of brood were possible. In one such year we got a
super of honey on foundation from the silver willow bloom during the week
of June 10th .
Wednesday April 12th, 2000
What'd I say? They changed the forecast and now the storm
will be tonight and tomorrow -- on the 13th the way its supposed to be.
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Today: A mix of
sun and cloud. High 8. |
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Tonight:
Occasional showers changing to snow this evening. Snow at times heavy
overnight. Wind becoming northeast 20 in the evening. Low minus 3. |
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Thursday: Snow at
times heavy. Wind northeast 30. High plus 1. |
Here are the results from yesterday after I left:
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Yard Name |
Alive & Well |
Total Wrapped |
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Sommervilles' |
35 |
40 |
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Elliotts' East |
37 |
38. |
To date that is:
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Elliotts' Hiway |
33 |
40 |
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Freres' |
241 |
280 |
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Sommervilles' |
35 |
40 |
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Elliotts' East |
37 |
38 |
For a total of 418 survivors out of 476 or a 88% survival.
We'll lose another 5% that turn out to be duds, but that is not too bad.
Hope the rest of the yards do as well.
I'm trapped at my desk today. Got to get the books to
the accountant and the bank in the next day or two. Only a few things
left to do, but it makes me crazy.
Heavy
snowfall warning issued 10 to 20 cm are predicted throughout this
region for tonight and tomorrow.
Looking over last year's notes -- an acceptable form of
procrastination -- I see we were pretty well finished unwrapping by
the 5th of April or so. We are very much slower this year,
because we found that we went off a bit early last year due to the
excellent previous year. This year is slow too, like last year.
BTW, our pond is just about thawed and I ordered the white amur today.
Gotta order trout soon.
I think it is good to get some syrup and protein into the
bees as early as practicable, but the wraps certainly help protect the bees
when we get these cool winds and snow.
Today the guys went over to Willows with instructions to
unwrap, feed, and to turn tail and run at the first sign of bad weather.
We want the bees to have some time to get used to being unwrapped before
the storm hits.
The only reason for unwrapping, frankly is to get some feed
into them. Otherwise I'd leave them wrapped until they are about to
swarm in May then split them. I've done it that way and it works well.
Anyhow, the storm showed up and the temps started to drop.
We saw the temp go from plus 14 to plus 4 in about twenty minutes and big
fluffy popcorn sized flakes started to go by my window at an angle.
I tried for 1-1/2 hours to reach my guys on the cell phone to make sure
they were breaking off. No answer. It's a good thing there is
no way to commit murder over an unanswered cell phone. (This is
humour. Laugh here).
Gareth showed up at four, but the others were 'finishing
up'. They unwrapped all the rest, but did not open them to feed
protein patties. Didn't I just say that the only reason we
were unwrapping early was to get the patties into them?
Today's yard lowered the average. We had stuck some
unpromising hives there at the end, and they kept their 'unpromise' and
died. So, now we add to the record,
That's only 77% survival and 23% loss. We'd blame the
yard for bad winter loss if we did not know we always give it the losers.
Thanks for reminding me, Ryan.
Thursday April 13th, 2000
Here it is -- our spring storm
-- right on schedule. Surely the universe is unfolding as it should.
Actually this weather is good for the bees, as long as they
are on comb and have lots of feed. If it were nice, they would be out
flying around bothering the neighbours and ageing themselves for nothing --
there are no flowers, no pollen, no nectar. It is time just to sit on
brood and wait for the crocuses. I don't think we need minus ten
temperatures though, and that is what we are getting. I'm sure now
that we'll lose some of the packages in the experiment and I'm feeling sad.
The
varroa find in New Zealand is big news. It won't affect me much,
but I know it will cause some hardship.
Our pond is now almost free of ice.

Posts I've Made to BEE-L since February 10th, 2000
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The Future is Not what it Used to Be |
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030615 |
00/02/10 |
14:14 |
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Automated Beekeeping. |
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030616 |
00/02/10 |
14:40 |
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Re: New Queen? |
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030617 |
00/02/10 |
14:40 |
39 |
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Re: Computer AND Apidictor: Poll
results |
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030633 |
00/02/11 |
07:15 |
38 |
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Re: Computer AND Apidictor |
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030650 |
00/02/12 |
15:33 |
77 |
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Re: Early Feeding |
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030660 |
00/02/13 |
06:57 |
53 |
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Re: Robust varroa management? |
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030673 |
00/02/14 |
21:11 |
22 |
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Re: Screened Bottom Boards. (Floors) |
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030689 |
00/02/15 |
09:32 |
86 |
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Re: Screened bottom boards |
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030705 |
00/02/15 |
18:15 |
27 |
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A New Beekeeping Telemetry List |
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030707 |
00/02/16 |
09:02 |
48 |
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Re: Liquid Smoke |
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030725 |
00/02/17 |
10:04 |
47 |
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Re: Screened bottoms |
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030754 |
00/02/19 |
08:32 |
47 |
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Re: Screened bottom boards |
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030776 |
00/02/20 |
10:00 |
35 |
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Re: Formic Acid Gel Packs |
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030796 |
00/02/24 |
06:08 |
31 |
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Re: expeller/hexane processed soyflour |
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030806 |
00/02/25 |
08:26 |
46 |
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Re: Winter kill |
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030814 |
00/02/26 |
21:29 |
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Junk on Screen Bottoms |
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030815 |
00/02/27 |
06:50 |
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The Price of Sugar |
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030817 |
00/02/27 |
08:37 |
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Re: pollen patties |
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030863 |
00/03/04 |
04:46 |
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FWIW |
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030877 |
00/03/06 |
10:18 |
79 |
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Beekeeping is Very Simple |
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030907 |
00/03/09 |
05:25 |
38 |
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Competition |
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030911 |
00/03/09 |
08:22 |
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Re: Competition |
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030928 |
00/03/09 |
20:42 |
82 |
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FW: "No Bees, No Peace" |
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030952 |
00/03/14 |
17:57 |
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Re: Removing Beeswax from Pans |
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030953 |
00/03/14 |
17:50 |
26 |
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Re: Language - not language |
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031037 |
00/03/23 |
06:49 |
107 |
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Re: 9 5/8" boxes, 9 1/8" frames, and
Bee space |
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031049 |
00/03/23 |
14:17 |
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Re: trim deeps |
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00/03/24 |
05:03 |
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Your Post Will Not Appear on BEE-L |
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00/03/25 |
08:45 |
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Re: Making Foundation |
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031073 |
00/03/25 |
18:20 |
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Re: Maximum Brood Area |
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031076 |
00/03/26 |
07:53 |
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Potassuium Sorbate |
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031095 |
00/03/27 |
14:16 |
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Re: To brood or not to brood |
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031129 |
00/03/29 |
09:49 |
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Re: cell size |
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00/03/29 |
12:32 |
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Re: cell size |
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031163 |
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13:14 |
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Re: Formic: Organic or synthetic |
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031182 |
00/04/01 |
17:41 |
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Worker Cell Measurement |
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031184 |
00/04/02 |
01:17 |
23 |
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Attention - Non-North American
Beekeepers |
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031261 |
00/04/10 |
12:31 |
71 |
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Quoting and Leaking and Diaries and
Such |
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031285 |
00/04/11 |
07:37 |
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Re: (florida inspections) |
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00/04/11 |
20:23 |
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031301 |
00/04/11 |
22:14 |
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Packages on Foundation |
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09:44 |
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Re: Rich Australian beekeepers |
Friday April 14th, 2000
This turned out to be a dull work inside kind of a day.
The guys sorted combs and cleaned up. Matt took the day off and plans
to work tomorrow, Steve is still sick. I worked at my desk, and got a
lot accomplished for a change. Ellen moved furniture and ran back and
forth directing activities.
The weather was minus 13 this morning and we have six
inches of snow with more coming. I guess we put the snowmobile away
too soon. They are promising better weather for tomorrow - a
high of plus 5
The packages on foundation -- even with fondant -- are
starting to look like really bad idea. Why don't I listen to my own
advice? I know that packages on foundation are a really
questionable proposition and tell anyone who will listen and many who
won't. Why don't I?
Saturday April 15th, 2000
It's minus 9.9 and dull this morning. A month from
now we are going to be in the midst of splitting, and two months from now
we will be getting ready to move bees to pollination.
Matt is coming in today. It's too cold to do much
outside, although we have queen checks due on the packages and we are
thinking we are going to have to give the foundation hives in the
experiment some comb -- if they are still alive. I guess it will be
perfect day to assemble one of the diesels. A day without
distractions is best. One does not want to spend $4000 on machining
and parts, then make some stupid little assembly error because of
interruptions.
A neighbour just phoned and its seems his Swinger is still
in repair and his bees have to come out of the shed before the next warm
spell, so he is on his way to borrow one of our spares. It's a three
hour drive each way for him. Oh, well.
How
to feed BeePro, yeast or soy flour in open feeders? Here's a group of
simple, cheap feeders made from an old super with 3/8" plywood nailed to
the bottom and four nails sticking up an inch or so near the corners to
raise the lids enough that the bees can get in and out freely.
We simply place these feeders in the yards with telescoping
lids on them to keep the feed dry. We also use
drums on their sides as dry
feed shelters, but they are more hassle and we need to take the dust out
periodically in order that we can use the drums for syrup feeding.
These box feeders fit nicely on the truck since they are the same
dimensions as supers. They are also dirt cheap to make and we can
leave them in the yard year round. You never know when the bees
will want protein supplements.
These boxes are also used for tote boxes around the place
when the four nails are removed. We even built benches that use them
as drawers, since we have thousands of old boxes kicking around.
So far, the diesel is not getting much work. Our gas
Swingers have been a bit balky lately and in need of tuning. Since
one is going for a ride, we thought we should get down to it and Matt reset
the carb and the timing.
We have the manual for these beasts and they give proper
settings, but we have found that the factory specs result in poor
performance. Maybe we have the wrong specs? A few words from
the dealers and we have found that they never use the specs; the solution
is to time them by ear.
I know about that from my childhood days in Muskoka.
I remember riding with Huey McLennan while he tuned our launch by ear.
That was interesting because he was deaf -- at least he wore a hearing aid.
He'd just raise the hatch, loosen the distributor a bit and listen for the
right spot while we ran at various speeds around the bay. A little
fiddling with the idle and other mixtures and he'd be done. No timing
light, no dwell meter, no scope, no mixture analyser -- just his sense of
what was proper, and a screw driver.
It may have been the same engine we have in these Swingers,
or close, come to think of it. The old Sea Birds used a Continental
too, I think. Anyhow, these engines are not too fussy about
what they burn, or specs. If you just tune the gas and the spark so
they accelerate and run well, you won't burn them out, they'll be as
efficient as they are able, and they will go forever. They are very
different from the current crop of automotive four cylinder engines that
are highly tuned, and critical in every adjustment.
Matt's working on the diesel now and the job is
coming along steadily. We take our time and are careful to measure
everything. A little care now can save a lot of time and expense
later. We have a machine shop we trust and who works with us on this and
that is nice to have
Bert came for supper and a visit, then we called it a day.
Matt and I are planning to go skiing tomorrow if he calls me by 8, if not
he has decided he'd rather sleep.
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Today: Occasional
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Tonight:
Occasional light snow. Low minus 3. |
Sunday April 16th, 2000
Mainly cloudy. 40 percent
chance of showers or light snow. High 8
I guess he'd rather sleep. I did not get a call.
This turned out to be a slow, dull day. I was pretty
tired and slept a lot. Ellen & I have been studying up on laying
tile, since we have a bit of that to do soon. I really don't look
forward to it. Of course, I worked on the books and various office
matters as well.
The computer started acting up this morning -- it would not let
me into my accounting software -- and I remembered splashing a few drops of
mead on the keyboard last night about the time Bert showed up. I had
wiped it off and thought no more of it. As it turns out, a little
mead got under one edge and, the keyboard seemed okay, there are a few
characters that were shorted out. I tried fixing it, but now it does
not work at all and I have stolen my wife's for the moment.
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